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This and That IV



Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:56 pm

Overall, I'd say Talk, although there are some nice songs on Union. But Talk was the stronger effort, IMO.

Keys 1 or Keys 2?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:02 pm

Hmmm...

I'd say the live tracks are better on Keys 1, but then Keys 2 has Mind Drive..........?

Think I'l go with Keys 1, RSOG is incredible there.

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Re: This and That IV

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Re: This and That IV

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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:59 pm

I'd have to give the nod to ABWH in my previous question. It's definitely an album worth listening to, and some of the tracks are pretty "classic" Yes . . . ;)

You should get a copy of it, Hallway!

Good suggestion - let's try another band with these comparisons . . . how about King Crimson?

In the Court of the Crimson King, or In the Wake of Poseidon?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:36 am

Got to be Court because Poseidon is, as has been said, a bit of a photocopy. Both are good though, but obviously when they are so similar (at least on the first side) you have to commend the one that came first.

In the Court of the Crimson King is potentially the most ground-breaking debut there ever was, and some say it invented prog rock (which can only be a good thing!)

Lizard or Islands?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:11 pm

Gotta love Lizard - it has Jon on it . . . ;)

Larks' Tongues in Aspic or Starless and Bible Black?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:36 am

Larks' Tongues is very special I think. Not surprising for 1973. Starless not quite as awesome.

Two very different offerings: Red or Discipline?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:09 pm

That's a toughie - both are excellent, but as you say, very different.

I think I'll have to give the nod to Discipline - their first outing with the lineup that has mainly lasted since then. Not a clunker in the bunch, IMO.

Beat or Three of a Perfect Pair?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:08 pm

Haven't got either of those yet lol. Still an ameteur collector.

I'd like to hear you're opinion on Pink Floyd though, if you have any of their stuff. Some of their albums sound like totally different bands.
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:02 pm

Maybe we should go to the Pink Floyd thread to discuss that!

Hmmm . . . switching gears once again . . .

Newspaper or internet news?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:59 am

Didn't know there was one lol.

I use internet for convinience- the google thingy shoves all the newspapers and TV channels into one place.

TV broadcasts or radio news?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:57 pm

Radio for me - I'm in the car more than I'm at home, and when I'm at home, I rarely watch the news . . .

New music - hear on the radio or via the internet?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:22 pm

internet radio, so both i suppose. I never download music cos it just angers me, but I don't really listen to mainstream radio either. Sometimes I just buy new music without hearing it at all, especially if I "trust" the artist or genre.

Favourite type: Live album or live dvd/visual?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:18 am

Both, but if I didn't have the visual, I'd still be fine. I've listened to live albums all my life, and LOVE them!

Live or studio albums?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:00 am

Studio because of the original factor. Live albums are 90% made from studio material, although they are sometimes better.

Still, other forms such as live albums, dvds and singles wouldn't exist without studio material.

Concept album, or album with concepts?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:05 pm

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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:41 am

Hmmm, both have their place; but I'l give the nod to the keys because I enjoy it more. I try and learn keyboard parts on my piano, but what I really would love is an analogue synthesizer, jeez, the sounds they make are absolutely immense!

I think guitars with keyboards is the best combination though.

Organ or Mellotron?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:00 pm

Mellotron is really cool, but apparently a cantankerous instrument. For reliability, I'd have to go with organ. For effect, I'd have to go with mellotron though . . . ;)

Electric piano or acoustic?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:01 am

Acoustic in most cases; you can't really find anything with as much expression.

But if we're in the realm of funk, then obviously electric pianos and clavinets take the spotlight.

Analogue synths- the retro Moogs and VCS3s, or the sounds of digital/modern ones?- the Korgs and Gems etc
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:48 pm

This thread is delving into things MUCH too technical for this untrained ear! I do have a fondness for the early synthesizer music, so I'll go with the analog ones . . .

Shifting gears once again . . . cowbell or triangle? When I saw the Foo Fighters, they did a mean triangle solo! :p
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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:00 pm

LMAO, sounds... err, great!

I'll go with cowbell; when used in the right places it really adds something (e.g. in Carl Palmer's 7 hour drum solos)

Still within the realms of percussion: Do you prefer those tribal drums that Yes get out when performing Ritual, or the little cymbals (croatles?) and tinkly harps, etc that Alan and Jon use in Awaken?
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Re: This and That IV

Postby tardistraveler » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:54 pm

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Re: This and That IV

Postby thehallway » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:07 pm

Depends really on the band's age and current popularity- I mean, Yes were too inexperienced, in my opinion, when they did TAAW, and lacked enough media respect when they did Magnification. But generally, symphonic does work, especially with things like rock operas.

If we're talking individual orchestral instruments though, then that usually adds something positive. Flutes, violins, and to a lesser degree, brass, plus the percussion we mentioned. I think it probably works better within progressive rock though rather than straight/hard rock. Then again, there's people like the Beatles who got away with just about anything.

Which is better: rock groups covering classical music (using their rock instruments), or orchestral instruments adding a symphonic layer to a rock song/album?
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