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The new bands . . .



The new bands . . .

Postby theproffet » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:04 pm

I've been hearing so many great albums by new groups, I have to see what others have heard . . .

Lately, my contemporary favorite is Mercury Rev's All Is Dream. I could tell you that it makes me think of Magnification crossed with early Neil Young, but more fey than even Jon sometimes. Nice stuff . . .

I'm still surprised to see any great bands on the mid-western circuit, but they do get around. Del Rey, a Chicago all-instrumental King Crimson-meets-The Who collision; Gooding, a great Kansas City guitarist, with a stunning media show: And The Flaming Lips, who do the best experimental live show since Roger Waters last applied a potato to a flaming gong.

Guided By Voices has been around for awhile, but they still rock. I read in Spin that they opened for The Strokes in NYC, and blew them away. For those in the dark, GBV is a bit like Tony Iomni playing with Brian Wilson--it's vocal and very melodic, but the riff is relentless!

I haven't the chance to check out Radiohead yet, although the critics make me curious . . . <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Ed1909 » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:36 am

Currently heavily into the 'Pink Floyd meets celtic rock' of Mostly Autumn - got their "Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings" CD yesterday; I now have all of their output, except the live "The Story so Far"

also check out Muse and their album "Origin of Symmetry"

Prof, for Radiohead, it's gotta be "The Bends" or "OK Computer" IMO, (but to be honest with you, I'm not too familiar with their post OK Comp' stuff; it might be good....)

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Postby Dr_Yes » Wed Mar 27, 2002 7:04 pm

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<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>

also check out Muse and their album "Origin of Symmetry"

Prof, for Radiohead, it's gotta be "The Bends" or "OK Computer" IMO, (but to be honest with you, I'm not too familiar with their post OK Comp' stuff; it might be good....)

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Prof,

Ed's right about Radiohead - definitely worth a listen and I'd plump for OK Computer for Paranoid Android alone (sorry - that's a bit predictable, but it's a da,m good track).

As far as Muse goes, I prefer their debut Showbiz, but they are both good albums. I just find the second album a bit more dance-market oriented for my taste. However, their debute promised some great things. Thre tracks Sunburn, Muscle Museum and in particular The Cave are IMHO superb.

For something different - I am into Linkin Park. I know there's been a lot of debate over whether they are manufactured or not but I think Hybrid Theory is one of the best new-ish albums around. I like the video/song for Sum 41's In Too Deep but I don't know if I'll like the band enough to buy the album.
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Postby innerPact » Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:11 am

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I like the video/song for Sum 41's In Too Deep but I don't know if I'll like the band enough to buy the album.

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whoa! Sum 41 makes it to yesTalk? who'da thunk it?

Sum 41 is a local band here and while they have some good prankster punk tunes like Fat Lip and Makes No Difference they are, at best, Blink 182 wannabes. and they suck live. absolutely suck. lead singer Deryck especially. but they're cute and the little girls love them.
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Postby Dr_Yes » Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:34 am

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whoa! Sum 41 makes it to yesTalk? who'da thunk it?
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Ah it's the diversity of YEStalkers musical tastes and open mindeness to listen to new and fresh things you see. Surprising really when most prog-rockers get labelled as dinosaurs and elitists, stuck in the past listening to crumbling vinyl collections. It's a load of crap. Most prog-rock fans I know are also musicians/music lovers and willing to listen to loads of new stuff. I like Green Day, but I wouldn't call them brilliant - derivative maybe.

So whta you're saying is don't buy the Sum 41 album? Shame coz I really like that one song.
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Postby innerPact » Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:34 am

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...So what you're saying is don't buy the Sum 41 album? Shame coz I really like that one song.
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no, of course not. go get it. i haven't heard their albums. i just know they aren't very good live. my opinion is based on what i've seen on TV and what i've heard through my kids (who, btw, don't like yes - which is cool - though they were impressed with steve after watching my DVDs!).

what do you think of NOFX? if you like punk and haven't heard of them, i'd recommend you check 'em out.

yes, it is possible to be a <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> fanatic and like punk at the same time.

...cuz i'm in too deep and i'm tryin' to keep my head from going under...
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Postby TenVoices » Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:41 am

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<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>
Currently heavily into the 'Pink Floyd meets celtic rock' of Mostly Autumn - got their "Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings" CD yesterday; I now have all of their output, except the live "The Story so Far"

also check out Muse and their album "Origin of Symmetry"

Prof, for Radiohead, it's gotta be "The Bends" or "OK Computer" IMO, (but to be honest with you, I'm not too familiar with their post OK Comp' stuff; it might be good....)

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Interesting comment that you like the Pink Floyd-ish sound and Radiohead. My friend let me borrow OK Computer for a few weeks, and I detest it. I also have little appreciation of Pink Floyd. I thought Radiohead was too Floydish, but my friend says they are nothing alike. Your thoughts?
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Postby chromatic88 » Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:59 am

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<b>TenVoices wrote:</b>
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<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>
Currently heavily into the 'Pink Floyd meets celtic rock' of Mostly Autumn - got their "Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings" CD yesterday; I now have all of their output, except the live "The Story so Far"

also check out Muse and their album "Origin of Symmetry"

Prof, for Radiohead, it's gotta be "The Bends" or "OK Computer" IMO, (but to be honest with you, I'm not too familiar with their post OK Comp' stuff; it might be good....)

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Interesting comment that you like the Pink Floyd-ish sound and Radiohead. My friend let me borrow OK Computer for a few weeks, and I detest it. I also have little appreciation of Pink Floyd. I thought Radiohead was too Floydish, but my friend says they are nothing alike. Your thoughts?
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OK Computer is very Floyd-ish. But the other two after, Kid A and Amnesiac, are not as much. There is more krautrock influence (ie Can, Amon Duul II, Neu!) and influence of Robert Wyatt (check out "Everything in its Right Place" if you are a Wyatt fan) AND I'd like to mention the melody to "How to Disappear Completely" has more than a passing resemblence to Jon and Vangelis' "Garden of Senses".

I really like Kid A and Amnesiac and the new live album makes improvements to a lot of the tunes. They take these influences and make them their own. They also acknowledge their influences which gets kids into the great music (IMO) that influenced them. The lead guitarist has mentioned a fondness for Steve Howe.

A lady who owns a Toronto record store specializes in prog and avant-garde mentioned that three of the members of Radiohead, incl Thom Yorke, came to her store and just raided the place. They bought alot of the German bands and I guess even some of the Radiohead boots!!

For Marillion fans, I guess when they were writing OK Computer, they all went to the EMI office to get copies of labelmates, Marillion, "Brave" concept album. This was mentioned in either a Q or ClassicRock article.

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Postby Roundabout » Sat Mar 30, 2002 2:30 pm

wow! colin greenwood mentioned howe as an influence??? I LOVE radiohead, the old powerfull stuff(bends) and the new, kinda more electronic stuff(kid a, amnesiac) and ok computer, wich has both of those styles...
anyway, it really doesn't seems that howe was an influence on him...
what do you think??
and another thing, even thoug the last cds are great,don't you miss the old time of powerful songs like bends,just,my iron lung, planet telex?!?!
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Postby chromatic88 » Sun Mar 31, 2002 4:18 am

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<b>Roundabout wrote:</b>
wow! colin greenwood mentioned howe as an influence??? I LOVE radiohead, the old powerfull stuff(bends) and the new, kinda more electronic stuff(kid a, amnesiac) and ok computer, wich has both of those styles...
anyway, it really doesn't seems that howe was an influence on him...
what do you think??
and another thing, even thoug the last cds are great,don't you miss the old time of powerful songs like bends,just,my iron lung, planet telex?!?!
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I believe the quote was from the younger guy, guitarist Johnny...is it Greenwood as well?
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Postby Altair » Sun Mar 31, 2002 7:41 pm

Creed, anyone?

I recently gave 1/2 an ear to their latest CD. The intros were very acoustic and sounded nice. Of course, the grunge increased as the songs continued.

Any advice on Creed?
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Postby Yaddict » Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:35 am

If you’d like to find a list with all the latest more interesting bands take a look at the poll where Magnification made No.1 of 2001 at http://www.nra.lv/green/gd09.htm

Here you will find the who-is-who of the alternative scene:

Highly critically acclaimed Post Rock bands such as Radiohead, Sigur Ros, Godspeed, Mogwai, Tortoise, Silver Mt. Zion, Labradford, Lamb, etc.

Neo-Prog bands like The Flower Kings, Transatlantic, Marillion, Spock’s Beard, etc.

It also includes great acts like Tool, Spiritualized, Sparklehorse, Mercury Rev, Autechre, and Porcupine Tree. Even the multitalented Bjork and Brian Eno show up in the list.

The only two other dinosaurs included are King Crimson and Jethro Tull,

Obviously these are very informed music experts. YES is in very good company on this list!
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Postby perpetualchanger » Mon Apr 01, 2002 6:57 pm

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<b>Altair wrote:</b>
Creed, anyone?

I recently gave 1/2 an ear to their latest CD. The intros were very acoustic and sounded nice. Of course, the grunge increased as the songs continued.

Any advice on Creed?
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They're all right if you like grunge. I think they are going to be around for a while, if only because that lead singer makes you think of Kurt Cobain when you have your eyes closed.

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They're all right if you like grunge. I think they are going to be around for a while, if only because that lead singer makes you think of Kurt Cobain when you have your eyes closed.
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No, it's not Kurt Cobain. It's the guy from Stone Temple Pilots, whose name escapes me, that he sounds like.

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Postby Altair » Tue Apr 02, 2002 12:48 am

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<b>perpetualchanger wrote:</b>No, it's not Kurt Cobain. It's the guy from Stone Temple Pilots, whose name escapes me, that he sounds like.
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LOL, that's funny! Actually, he totally reminds me of Eddie Vedder, lead singer of Pearl Jam.
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LOL, that's funny! Actually, he totally reminds me of Eddie Vedder, lead singer of Pearl Jam.
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Postby theproffet » Wed Apr 03, 2002 5:15 pm

<font color=red>Ed Nineteen, I've been checking out this Mostly Autumn--nice stuff! What label are they on, and what exactly is the instrumentation?

It's not prog, but lately I've been listening to Shannon McNally, a new US songtress that doesn't show off her flat belly, she just writes great songs like "Now That I Know." Earthy and sincere, a bit Bonnie Raitt, a bit Ricki Lee Jones, she's earthy without being corny, sexy without being tartish. Oh, her keyboardist plays a real Hammond. I'd almost given up on female artists . . .

The Mercury Rev to check out is "Dark Is Rising," from their last disc. Think early Neil Young, only more whimsical . . . </font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Dr_Yes » Wed Apr 03, 2002 8:23 pm

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no, of course not. go get it. i haven't heard their albums. i just know they aren't very good live. my opinion is based on what i've seen on TV and what i've heard through my kids (who, btw, don't like yes - which is cool - though they were impressed with steve after watching my DVDs!).

what do you think of NOFX? if you like punk and haven't heard of them, i'd recommend you check 'em out.

yes, it is possible to be a <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> fanatic and like punk at the same time.

...cuz i'm in too deep and i'm tryin' to keep my head from going under...
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Hi Innerpact,

Haven't heard anything by NOFX, but I'll try and get something from Audiogalaxy - thanks for the tip. As you say, yes it is possible to love Yes and still like punk. I grew up in the post-Pistols era and as I hated new wave I was into the likes of The Damned (Curtain Call is a real fav. - part. for the use of the thematic motif from Scheherazade, punk meets claasical!), Sham 69, Stiff Little Fingers, UK Subs and the brilliant Tom Robinson (more punky than punk).
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Postby Ed1909 » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:25 pm

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[red]Ed Nineteen, I've been checking out this Mostly Autumn--nice stuff! What label are they on, and what exactly is the instrumentation?

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Label is Legends Records - www.classic-rocklegends.com

Band's website: www.mostly-autumn.com

They're a six piece band from Yorkshire. As well as your usual guitars, drums, keys etc, they also make use of flutes, recorders, bodhran, and violins.

I cannot recommend this band highly enough!

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Postby perpetualchanger » Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:39 pm

Ed, that sounds like my kind of group! Will have to try them out ...

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Postby hennie552001 » Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:29 pm

I'll check out Muse and Mostly Autumn. Think this might be exactly the kind of music I enjoy.
Wanna try something new, something really rocking, but still related to prog.? Listen to Motorpsycho!
Her3e's a place where you can get an introduction:

http://www.FreeCityMedia.com/BigMotorps ... meSet.html
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Postby innerPact » Fri Apr 05, 2002 12:12 am

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Haven't heard anything by NOFX, but I'll try and get something from Audiogalaxy...
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ya gotta love punk. where else would you get album title's like NOFX's:

Pump Up The Valuum
So Long and Thanks for All The Shoes
Heavy Petting Zoo/Eating Lamb
I Heard They Suck Live
Punk In Drublic
White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean

i recommend Pump up the Valuum. check out the song titles:

01. and now for something completely similiar
02. take 2 placebos and call me lame
03. what's the matter with parents today
04. dinosaurs will die
05. t.g.i.m.
06. clams have feelings too
07. louise
08. stranger than fishin
09. pharmacist's daughter
10. bottles to the ground
11. total bummer
12. my vagina
13. herojuana
14. theme from a nofx album
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Postby squirtacious » Mon Apr 08, 2002 5:25 am

spocks beard V, transatlantic the first one and bridge across america and the flower kings chew on that for awhile!
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Postby Stoutman » Tue Apr 09, 2002 1:09 am

I just can`t get into the new music nowadays,especially what is played on the radio nowadays. Last Easter Sunday,my nephew was over and he is heavily into LinkinPark.I tried my best to have an open mind. But after three songs,I held up the white flag. Basically,it`s just the same punk/grunge/ garage band slop that has been going on for a few years now. The family gathering was quite boring if yours truly was listening to his Nephew`s walkman.
I gave the walkman back to him and said;`I just can`t getinto it,but if that`s what you like,more power to ya.' I actuallly wanted to say; `How the hell can you listen to that shit?',but he is not yet 12,and I do have to show some bit of decorum and respect around him when his parents are about. Never mind the fact that his own father can be quite abrasive and cutting with the curse words. You see,I`m not the worst.
Also,I didn`t want to sound like my parents when they had criticized my music. I know I`m getting old. I`m still a punk,but I`m an aging one.And one that is not happy about it either.
A relatively new band I like a lot is `Porcupine Tree'. They are truly progressive and their 1999 album,`Stupid Dream',should have been a monster hit,but such are musical tastes and the business nowadays. `Stupid Dream',is easily the `Dark Side of the Moon`,of the 1990's. Their followup,Lightbulb Sun(2000),while not as great as `Stupid Dream,is still a good album. Great singing and great somgwriting. That`s where it all starts for me and those are things that are truly lacking nowadays in today`s music.
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Postby theproffet » Tue Apr 09, 2002 12:13 pm

Porcupine Tree is indeed good stuff. I've been listening to Signify for a month now, but I haven't been able to classify it. It's not indie music, it's not prog, but I keep returning . . .

Gooding is a local band that's been getting more press lately. I don't care for the albums, but they have a great live show--multi-media presentation, with cool films. More than a bit of early Robert Fripp, a lot of intelligent jamming. Hint: buy him a Drambuie before the show . . .

Punk and Yes go together fine! I'm from the same generation as Dr Yes though--but I like Buzzcocks, Wire, and Captain Sensible. I do need some UK Subs and Tom Robinson, although that's all kinda Yank stuff to me . . .

I'm still supporting Mercury Rev, who released the second best orchestral-pop album after Magnification. And Explosions In The Sky, an album of dreamy sonic soundscapes, much in the same mode as Floyd circa '69. Think of live "Careful With That Axe Eugene" and "Saucer Full Of Secrets."

This weekend, the current buzz is on Mogwai and a Norwegian band, Turbo Negro. I couldn't make this stuff up, I just listen to the kids . . . <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby hennie552001 » Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:35 pm

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How great proffet. Turbonegro is really raw energy. I guess Gluecifer goes in the same cathegory. They are both very popular over here. The most popular act over here these days is Kaizers Orchestra (if you can imagine Tom Waitz going punk, with gypsy/Balkan influences). And you should read the link to Motorpsycho earlier in this thread. It's an Americans view on the group.
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Postby Clownzumanfasse » Wed Apr 17, 2002 5:55 pm

Hello Stoutman. I am also a big Porcupine Tree fan and as Prophet said one can hardly classify this band. Every album is really different. They got so many influences : Psychedelic, Prog, Rock, Trance, Ambient, Indie etc. But despite these many influences they managed to create their very own style. Many people descibe them being very floydish, what they certainly are at times. The band really don`t like the prog-tag that many people had pinned on them, because they don`t see their roots mainly in 70ies prog rock. While they were some sort of "secret-hype-band" for the english music press after their first releases, they lost this ground with "The Sky Moves Sideways" which was regarded as an oldfashioned prog-album. Since then the band fought hard to get rid of this "brandmark". But music jounalists are very "narrow-minded". I once read a review of "Lightbulb Sun" in the german "Rolling Stone", and it was pretty clear that the journalist hadn`t any clue what this band was all about, with the exception of the prog-tag. I don`t think he really listened to that album , because he said it sounded like a "blueprint" of the 70ies prog-bands ( or he didn`t knew prog-rock at all ). I`m a huge prog-fan, but I think that this genre is the only one that allows progression in true sense, because there isn`t any border a band of this genre couldn`t pass. This is to me the really exciting side of this kind of music. Porcupine Tree is a good example for this attitude, they suprise me with every new album. So as Stoutman allready said, if you are intrested in good musician-ship, songwriting and adventurous soundscapes check this band out. Signify is a good point to start with, because it combines the "old" Porcupine Tree sound and the "new" more song orientated albums ,Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun. They recently signed to Atlantic Records, so there is a strong possibility that they`ll get much wider attention in the future.
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Postby Yaddict » Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:37 am

I found this quote in a review of Porcupine’s “Stupid Dream”

“The net result easily calls Yes to mind, but Wilson's not so high-pitched as Jon Anderson and Barbieri completely avoids Rick Wakeman's extreme idiocies — prog that knows when less is more.”

I think its interesting that all the new bands with prog roots are very careful to hide them as much as possible or face the inevitable critical assault.
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Postby Stoutman » Mon Apr 22, 2002 6:55 am

Yaddict and Clown (you don`t mind if i call you that?) I`m too lazy to type the full ID. I never said Hi! to both of you,so welcome to the site! Clown,you are right about Porcupine Tree. Every album was different. Their last studio release, `Lightbulb Sun',was more pop than progressive,although you still had those moments. When I first heard `Lightbulb Sun' ,I was disappointed, because `Stupid Dream' is such a tough act to follow. But I gave it a few more listens after that and it grew on me. One of the better albums of 2000.
And Yaddict,I don`t know who compared Steve Wilson`s voice to Jon Anderson`s. They sound nothing like each other. I`m not denigrating Wilson`s voice; it has a lot of emotion and character. And that is something that is lacking in many of the newer progressive type bands. Most of the singers are bland. This is what separates the old guard progressive groups from the latest ones.
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Postby psychopomp95 » Mon Apr 22, 2002 3:43 pm

Hmmm, other bands... well, I DO hear a lot of the stuff that gets played on modern rock radio nowadays since I hear it all the time at work! None of it is offensively bad, and to their credit most of the bands DO carve out their own sound (albeit within a pretty limited blueprint). Some of the groups like P.O.D., Incubus and Korn make very neat use of guitar effects and sounds, so they're creative in that aspect, even if the lyrics (for Korn and P.O.D. anyway) are rather typical teenage angst fare. Same goes for Staind, although I've listened to some of the lyrics and they see that angst isn't always constructive ("I cannot blame this on my father / he did the best he could for me" from Staind's "It's Been A While", which is a surprisingly mature sentiment)!
I guess I'm mainly happy that, even if the music still sounds really angry and negative for the most part, it at least sounds sincere! Whereas groups like Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock a few years ago seemed to be doing it 'by the numbers'!
And oh yeah, I have Linkin Park's CD. I haven't listened to it that much, but when I do listen I have to admit that most of the songs are pretty strong, and are similar without all sounding like copycats of each other (for the most part). And the band does some very interesting things, mixing up ambience and typical DJ turntabling with the usual hard rock mix! Plus the rapper is one of VERY few I've heard who doesn't try to sound 'ghetto'; he just does his thing.

I'm not gonna get into all the not-so-mainstream bands that I'm really into, but I do notice that experimentation in music is NOT directly inverse to how 'commercial' it is! I have CDs of some supposedly obscure gothic/metal bands (The Gathering, Samael, Therion, among others), and it strikes me as ironic that they remain underground while Radiohead release MUCH more 'out there' music and are able to sell into the millions! It basically proves my theory that commercial success almost always comes down to marketing, and almost never the music itself; that's why I always wonder why people think musicians 'sell out' by the way they make music, when it really doesn't work like that!
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