The Revealing . . .



The Revealing . . .

Postby theproffet » Wed Mar 28, 2001 3:30 pm

I've though about this topic for almost a year now, when I swung over to Ed's AH site, to post on a topic called "reveal yourself." The idea was just to expand on some personal elements of your life, as much as you felt comfortable with, to give the other respondents some concept of who was on the other end of cyberspace. A lot of the "oldsters" here have been doing it for a while, in an oblique way, through topics on politcs, religion and even sex, for some time, but there's been this fantastic growth in the past month, and I wanted to give a space for new and old members to introduce themselves. No big whoop, just talk about whatever you'd like to say to distinguish yourself. The one bad thing? Since I started this topic, I'll have to go first . . .

Well, I recently turned 40, and posted my 500th message tonight. I have around 30 Yes CDs (It's hard to keep count; I re-discovered Yessongs in the kitchen the other day), around twenty vinyls, and Roger Dean all over the place. Plus clippings from magazines from 25 years ago, thread-bare concert T-shirts, and memories galore. I hope my credentials say something about my obsessions . . .

The member of Yes I'm most like is Bruford, but I look most like Trevor Horn. I've got personality and looks, just not from the right people . . . <img src=jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

My other favorite interests are women and cats. Like Yes, they've both taught me a lot, and remain a constant source of joy and suprise. I could still use one of each in my life . . .

I've also thought of another topic: Music You Love That Would Shock Fellow Yes Fans. Well, my appreciation of Burt Bacharach and corny 70's pop has already been revealed, but I also enjoy really ancient country, or as Howe would put it, "hillbilly music." American Post-punk bands, from R.E.M. to The Replacements and Husker Du. Sinatra too . . .

But I'd never got the chance to talk to a virtual roomfull of people about, say, Squire's bass riff in Does It Really Happen, before I logged on here. What a concept . . .<img src=icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby massos » Wed Mar 28, 2001 10:51 pm

Hi Theproffet,

A brave post. I'm struck by how friendly everyone is on this forum:-) Being a new member I'd also like to know more about who I'm talking with. It seems we are all at least big Yes fans!

I'm 40 this year and am married Brit with two young kids. I was lucky enough to be a teenager in the UK when prog rock was at its peak and saw ELP, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Jeffro Tull (not sure they were big in the US), many others, and YES during their "Close to The Edge" and "Topograhic Oceans" tours. I also saw Rick tour "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" (has anyone heard Journey II?). Those were great..great times. I recently switched back on to Yes after having lost interest following the "union" album. I've always been into synth music such as Tangerine Dream, Vangelis, Propaganda (A Trevor Horn creation) Classical music, and Jazz Rock.

Hobbies are few at the moment since I'm busy coping with a young family! But an ambition is to pick up the Classical guitar again and to seriously study the Lute and Medieval English music.
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Postby every1is1 » Thu Mar 29, 2001 12:43 am

Excellent topic Prophet! Ummm.....
I'm turning 31 on tax day (4/15) and teach elementary school...a job where standards are constantly raised (easier for kids to fail), classrooms are overcrowded (harder for us to teach), teachers are underpaid (and we wonder why there is a shortage of teachers), and adequate supplies and assistance ceases to exist (and we wonder why our children are failing).
I was turned on to Yes through the Union album and have been going back in time to familiarize myself with them...my last purchase was Drama. I love their hard rock sound, but am partial to "Holy Lamb" and "Take the Water to the Mountain" and the AWBH release...I also love the Ladder and 90125.
I picked my nickname (every1is1) from "Shock to the System" as I believe we are all one person at a fundamental level. Philosophy is one of my favorite topics, and I recommend Alan Watts as a good book on Zen and Eastern Philosophy to read, but I'm also a sports nut.
I've seen Yes 3 times since 1994 when they simulcasted the concert on a radio station...you could bring your walkman and listen to the concert through headphones while you were actually there....weird experience!
Jon Anderson is my favorite member...simply love his vocals and energy.
Other music that I love includes Santana (have seen him every year since 1994). I also like U2, Depeche Mode, Metallica, Bob Marley, Moody Blues, Soundgarden, The Fixx, Live, Vertical Horizon, and many others. The music that I listen too occasionally that would shock fellow fans is R&B and pop music...such as Bobby Brown, Janet Jackson, The Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. Hey, I can't get away from it, being a teacher, and its actually not that bad, unless you are hung up by high expectations....the more you expect, the more you are let down.
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Postby qman » Fri Mar 30, 2001 7:07 am

I was stunned while reading Proffet's description, a lot of it sounding like mine. I am 42 soon to be 43. I'm a Compliance Officer for Securities Broker/Dealers. I supervise stock brokers and make sure they don't rip people off. Been a YES fan since 1973 first seeing the Relayer tour in 75 and then again in 76, then all 3 nights of GFTO in 77 at the Garden. A great YES beginning. I'm from NYC but have been in KC MO since 95. I have a wife and great son who is 6, he plays the drums and just loves music. I have a huge music collection and although I'm a YES fanatic I love all types of music and enjoy many other bands. I love new music, thus I dislike FM radio "classic rock" stations. I'd always rather hear something new from a band then a hit they had twenty years ago that I've heard 10,000 times already. I have my share of thread-bare concert T-shirts namely Relayer tour shirt from 75 (was I ever really that thin! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
I too have at least 30 YES CD's all the albums, solos, and so on. I also love cats and women but my wife will not let me play with or have either<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> I have been reading NOTES FROM THE EDGE for years and never thought to look for a Forum like this until a few weeks ago. When I found it I was very pleased with how nice and accepting everyone was. I can talk YES and music in general for hours on end and I'm sure before I know it I will be hitting the 500 post mark like Proffet! Great topic, and oh by the way my name is Mike. Qman is just a nick name a few friends in NYC gave me back in my Wall Street days. Scary but I also like Sinatra and Bacharach, unfortunately I look like George Castanza not Trevor Rabin <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby N2yes » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:37 am

Let's see...hmmm, where to begin...well, I am a speech/language pathologist working in the schools up here in Moo Hampshire. It's a job I love dearly though it is by no means my life's ambition. My true passion is for writing and God willin' and the creek don't rise, one day I'll get published. I turned 44 in January so i guess this makes me the old man of the lot though I know there are others ( they will soon come forth with their confessionals! haha ). I have been a devout YES fan since '78-79 though I was first turned onto them during the CTTE tour ( with the Eagles no less ). I cannot begin to describe my wonderous fascination with Chris's bass playing and Jon's magically soothing vocals. Chris picked up where Jack bruce left off and has not only turned the bass into a lead instrument but also an extremely melodic one as well. Though I have stated in earlier posts a preference for other YES songs, whenever I hear "I Am Waiting" off the "Talk" CD, I am reminded of just how good Jon can sing...it really does give one shivers up the ol' spine doesn't it? This band is by far the centerpiece of my musical appreciation, though Zeppelin lies in the not-too-far distance.
I have an avid interest in the bass guitar and did in fact play for many years though never on a truly professional basis. Today, I practice religiously on the acoustic ( a Guild )though I play by ear only.
Other bands I have held in high regard over the years are the Moody Blues, Fleetwood Mac,Steppenwolf, Heart and Wishbone Ash. Eric Clapton is also seriously revered in my home.
My YES collection is at the 27 CD level presently I'm equally proud to say.
I am married to a beautiful woman who has given me ( with a little help hey hey hey )two strapping boys! Lord knows I love 'em all. I love the outdoors and especially cold weather camping ( of all things ). I was raised in an environment that would have made any young kid envious until the bottom fell out ( Dad got real sick ) and the family subsequently collapsed. It was about this time I began to nurture my wild oats and became part of the tail-end of the hippie era. I have never really looked back though I have slowly evolved into a slightly more conservative individual.
I love animals of all types. Had the Mrs. been able to hold down the fort, I would have gone back to school and majored in zoology. Alas, it was not to be ( one time was enough---she says ). While many of my contemporaries hated geography, I always loved it. There was a time when I was ready and rarin' to launch into a career of cartography but fate intervened and things changed.
I also love to do pen and ink portraits. Drawing is another avid love of mine though I dare say I get enough time to practice the craft. When things settle down one day soon I hope to do that on the side.
To this day, I really enjoy speaking with people from other lands, the cultural differences and dialects are so interesting to me. I relish pondering the previous lives of my ancestors who beyond any doubt, had to have come from England.
If I can figure out how to post a pic, soon you folks will be confronted with the visage of N2! HA! Not to worry, you won't run for the hills ( I hope ). Well, that's a brief overview of me and my various interests. Thanks for reading. <font color=red></font id=red><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby daly50 » Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:53 am

Hello,

I'm Dan and I'm closing in on 48 in a few months. I first saw Yes at the Music Hall in Boston probably around 1972/3. The Eagles opened for them. My neighbor upstairs turned me on to the Yes album and when I heard it (particularly Clap and YIND) I was hooked. I've seen them 4 or 5 times.

I'm a professional in the high-tech field, married with two teenagers, one of which is a 15 year old music fanatic (from 60s to current).

I am an acoustic guitar buff so naturally a major Steve Howe fan. I bought a Martin 00-18SH a few months ago and it's the best guitar I've ever played. I saw Steve recently on his solo tour and watched from about 10 feet away.

Various musical interests from the Beatles, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull, Mike Oldfield, to REM, to newer groups that my son turns me on to, to New Age music. I go for music that has acoustic guitar or keyboards intertwined within it because I like the purity of the sound.
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Postby Tomfoolery » Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:54 pm

Well, lessee..... I'm 38 (39 in June), married to a wonderful woman, 2 absolutely great kids (one of whom is a Yes fan in a BIG way.. he's 14). Like Daly50, "I'm a professional in the high-tech field", the computer network field, and loving it because it's an ever-changing, ever-evolving career field.

Though I've been a MAJOR fan since Yessongs in 74, I've only seen Yes .. umm... 4 times. Open Your Eyes was the first time, The Ladder tour, and Masterworks twice... once in Boston and once in Virginia Beach less than a week later. Thanx to a favor that a friend of mine called in from Trevor Rabin, and thanx to Alan White and his wife, my family and I got backstage in Va Beach and my brother, my son, myself and 2 of my brother's friends got backstage in Boston after the show. Met the whole band (even Steve!) in Virginia Beach (Masterworks); met Jon, Alan, Chris and Igor in Boston (Masterworks); met Chris, Alan and Igor in Boston (The Ladder) (backstage thanx to the same friend of mine). OYE tour, I was 14 rows from the front, center stage, management seats. The Ladder in Boston, I was center stage at the Orfeum Theater, 12 rows from the front on the center aisle with Mitzi Sherwood and Igor's wife in the same row on the other side of the aisle. This was also my 14 year old's first concert. Actually got his picture taken with Chris Squire, who's his music hero, in Va Beach, and my wife and I had our pic taken with Jon Anderson (yes, I have them on my 'puter).

Favorite Yes album? Relayer, beyond a doubt.

Lessee.. music. All kinds. I can even handle some country, tho not in large dosages. Mostly progrock, but also dig classical (Rimsky-Korsakov, Suppe, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov, etc etc), opera, musicals (West Side Story is my favorite, followed closely by Man From LaMancha), heavy metal (Motley Crue, Creed, Black Sabbath), CCM, and I REALLY enjoy the EuroTech and EuroDance sounds. Tangerine Dream, Camel, Alan Parsons, etc etc etc etc etc...

Former US Navy sailor, currently a pleasure boat sailor (sailboats and windpower rules over powerboats!!!) Basically, I love life, and it's getting better each day/year.
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Postby N2yes » Thu Apr 05, 2001 10:32 am

This is such a really splendid topic, I am so surprised it didn't take off. We shall try again.<font color=red></font id=red>
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Postby theproffet » Thu Apr 05, 2001 4:18 pm

<font face='Tempus Sans ITC'><font size=4>Well, it can be harder to talk about yourself that music, so I'm not surprised. But it's led to a lot of facinating aspects here. Seryn and I are poles apart on religion, yet we're cut from the same political cloth. And I never thought there could be Christian Rush fans . . .

Plus, I've met a few people here at pre-concert get-togethers. First, there's recognition ("you told me to look for another guy in a big, black hat, but you didn't mention your wife was so beautiful!") : Then memories of past shows, and the traditional sharing of brownies . . . I've met a lot of great folks here, and a few in person.

I guess I'm the odd man out in terms of permanent relationships, but the single life is great for me. I love my nephews dearly, and I'm introducing them, slowly, to good music. I've had a lot of loss in the past year, with both my Father and Mother passing away, but I've focused my attention, on family, both real and cyberspace, and found out that I'm a really good listener . . .

My claim to being unique may be that I first bought a Yes album cold, without ever having heard any. Y'see, I was raised in a backward enviroment: I had to read about music through print. The Encylcopedia Brittanica published a year book, briefly mentioning "orchestral rock," TFTO and Olias around '74. I'd already been into The Beatles and Stravinsky, so the idea struck a chord. Bought Relayer with lawn-mowing money, and haven't been the same since . . . </font id='Tempus Sans ITC'></font id=size4><img src=icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Tomfoolery » Fri Apr 06, 2001 4:54 am

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Bought Relayer with lawn-mowing money, and haven't been the same since . . . </font id='Tempus Sans ITC'>[/size=4]<img src=icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I can understand that, although when I first bought Relayer, I didn't like it much. About 10 years later, I got it out again and found that hey, it wasn't bad! Listened to it several times, liked it more and more each time, and now I consider it one of my all time favorite albums.
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Postby every1is1 » Fri Apr 06, 2001 7:02 am

Interesting, the more you listen to music, the more you end up liking it...that's why it's so hard to get others to like something they have never heard before...in fact, it's dangerous because, chances are, they will not be instantly turned on to it and will actually decide they do not like it. Remember that next time you try some new music...keep an open mind and give it a while.

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Postby Yessong » Fri Apr 06, 2001 11:08 am

Hey Guys - Guess it's my turn, though much of me has been revealed in various other threads...I'll put it all together here for your perusal. 36 years old and a Long Islander my whole life. Been living on my own since I was 16 (due to death, not the hippie "on my own terms" thing). College educated in Communications. 12 years working on the air and as Promotion Director at a Rock Radio Station (till Feb of 2000). Met many famous people but Yes was something I always looked forward to doing again and again. Met and stage announced Yes for every tour since Big Generator (including ABWH). Been to every local show since Drama. First got into the band in Junior High School ('78) when I was searching for something cool to have painted on the back of my denim jacket - Of course Roger Dean was the way to go and that just opened up the gates - I have never been the same. These days I work in marketing for the biggest daily newspaper in the tri-state area (Newsday)...AHHHH - I'm a suit!. Live alone with my German Shepard, Wolfgang (Wolfie). Hobbies include collectable cars (65 T-bird & 83 Hurst/Olds 15th anniversary edition) and motorcycling (Flamed Harley, looks interesting when I'm in a suit). Also big history and aviation enthusiast. Other musical interests include the Indigo Girls, Tori Amos, basic pop music and the ussual progressive off-shoots (Genesis, Tull, ELP etc...). Huge Star Trek Fan (no uniforms in my closet, though) and enjoy model building (mostly aircraft). Bit of a movie buff, as well. But, ahh, enough about me...
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Postby yeskat » Fri Apr 06, 2001 1:08 pm

I am another cat-lovin' Yes fan. What is it about Yes and cats? I had a friend tell me it means I am an independent thinker. I'd like to think so!
My very first encounter with Yes was back in about '71. I had a cassette/radio player. When I heard a song on the radio I liked, I would record it. Some of you older folks may remember back in the olden days when FM stations played songs off albums rarely heard. They played "Everydays" and I liked the song a lot, and recorded it. Jon's voice was so unique and this song was something like I had never heard before! So I played the song over and over. But I didn't know who it was! At the time I listened to a little AM top pop music, and sometimes switched over to FM when I felt like "being cool". About a year went by when a friend of mine brought over a Fragile album and played it for me, and I was instantly in love with this band! After that I had an all-new appreciation for music. I also started listening to Moody Blues, Renaissance, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Fleetwood Mac, to name a few. But Yes was always the top of my list. Especially after my first Yes concert. It was their CTTE tour, and I sat and actually cried over the beautiful sounds I heard. I always had an appreciation for classical music, and I was thrilled over the way Yes used the classical sound with rock.
I am now married to the man who took me to my first Yes concert. We have attended every Yes concert that has come our way. It's hard for me to pick a favorite concert, but one I really enjoyed was their OYE concert in Santa Fe, NM. We sat under the stars on a beautiful night enjoying the greatest musicians on earth. The people attending this concert were so into the group, and Yes seemed to be playing at their best that night. Jon and Chris really interacted with the audience, and we were there with some great friends we have known since our teen-age years. It was a night to remember!
I now live with my three cats, my husband and son (age 9). I also have a 20-year-old daughter who is in college. I am an office manager for a doctor. Besides music, I enjoy reading, writing poetry and music, playing piano and keyboards (had 5 years piano lessons as a kid), art and antiques, among other things.
Yes have been faithful friends throughout my life.Their music has inspired,encouraged, and has given me an appreciation for life, love and nature. I know that many of you can understand this. Some people may think we're a bunch of kooks, but I think everyone has some obsession in their life to keep them sane in this crazy world, right?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby khalpin » Fri Apr 06, 2001 8:40 pm

Well, I just stumbled into this forum so this is pretty much my first post. Things seem pretty civil here so here goes: I'm 29 and have been listening to Yes since about 1990 in my freshman year at Univ. of Delaware. I never listen to the radio, but my roommate always had '98 Rock' on. And after the first few months I realized I really liked the songs I was hearing off of 90125 so I bought that one and then Union was released shortly after. At the time I had a bunch of old Guitar magazines(and still do) which had the sheet music for Mood For a Day, Clap, and Long Distance so I decided to go out and buy Fragile and TYA. That was what did it for me. Hooked for life. Of course I jumped at the opportunity to go see the Union tour in Philly. I loved it. My only regret is not being familiar with Awaken before I saw the show.

So basically, I've played guitar for almost 20 years and therefore, I'm a tremendous Howe fan. In fact I'm listening to Beginnings as I type this. Although I'm sure I should be working. I'm a computer programmer. As far as non-Yes music, I basically listen to music that doesn't use "baby" as a lyrical staple, except for Van Halen. Eddie's the reason I started playing guitar, but that was the 80s. Apart from Prog I like guitar music(Satriani, Ackerman, Metheny) and the Jam band scene(Phish, Bela Fleck). Hobbies are pretty much music, hockey, beer, Simpsons, and movies. I love collecting live video footage (although live audio is nice too). Favorite album is Relayer, favorite song Gates. Masterworks tour was the greatest thing in the world. Saw the PNC show that became the webcast. "We're gonna play some songs we haven't played in twenty-five years tonight." I'll never forget that moment. It's something I thought I'd never witness. I thought the QPR video would be as close as I'd come. But anywho, I'm looking forward to making some new friends on this forum.

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Postby yeskat » Sat Apr 07, 2001 1:14 pm

Welcome, Kevin!
You will find the people here friendly, intelligent, well-informed. It's always interesting to hear how people of all ages and backgrounds become Yes fans. Many Yes fans play instruments and therefore appreciate high-quality music. Keep posting!
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Postby IngnoZac » Sun Apr 08, 2001 7:23 am

Well, everybody know about everything but this topic gets these little pieces of info together...
I'm 15yold brazilian guy... The first contact with Yes came when I was in JHSchool, like 2 or 3 years ago. I've been learning a lot about this guys and their lyrics. Steve Howe probably made me study guitar techniques and I'm going to study music in College because of them, MOSTLY...
I've been trying to finish the Fragile logo painting in my wall, but it is so hard to draw/paint in a vertical plan. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

I've attended to the only concert that I could go that was the British Rock Symphony in the end of 2000. It presented Jon together with others Symphonic/Progressive Rock singers...
I'm going to buy a ticket for the show on Saturday. Rick Wakeman is coming here in Rio and I'm in great expectation. Hope I get a good seat!!! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
I've found this forum, like, in September/October... uhm... I cant remember now. It was a not-so-big forum and it had a good msg exchanging... Now things are getting better with newer and newer members.

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Postby Squire*Fan725 » Sun Apr 08, 2001 11:05 am

Well I've put it off long enough, and finally decided to spill the beans about myself.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

I'm 29 years old (30 in July, on the 25th),
and have been a loyal fan of Yes for 10 true summers. It started at a party I had went to, where there were a few people jamming on acoustic guitars. After playing a few songs, they started to play And You And I, and that was it...I was hooked. It was that pretty intro that opened my ears to Yes, and I wanted to hear more, beginning my quest for any album I could find. The 1st to my collection was the Classic Yes CD (compiled by my fave Yesman, Chris), and it took off from there. The rest of the albums came into the fold almost immediately, and have been played time and time again, although I sometimes wish that I could erase my memory of each one, and then when I listen to them, it would be listening to them for the first time...
The best album-buying experience I had was in '92, when I was lucky enough to find a copy of Fish Out Of Water on CD. I was in college at the time, and had passed my Renaissance art test after being tutored (I had failed the previous test). Anyway, my parents were so proud of the B I got, they gave me the $22 I needed for the CD. Then, my dad drove me to the mini-mall where the store was, and while he was at the Chinese take-out place getting dinner, I was getting the CD, only to find out I was $2 short, so I told the guy behind the counter that I could easily get it, and thats when he replied "Don't worry about it", took the $22, and handed me the CD, no questions asked...Now is that COOL or what?!?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
My 1st actual Yesshow was on 9/7/94 (is'nt it funny how you remember the dates?), at the PNCBank Arts Center (Garden State Arts Center at that time), during the Talk Tour.
Being my 1st show, I was happy just be in the presence of Yes..My 2nd show on 6/26/98 was even better, I had finally gotten to hear The Fish live. Another memorable show was Wakeman at Asbury Park in '93, where I ended up meeting him, and getting my Union CD autographed. What a blast that was...
I've lived in Jersey all my life, and I now reside in Jamesburg, with my fiance, and 5 year old son. My hobbies include movies and television, drawing (I'm pretty good with the colored pencils), listening to classic rock(Yes, Rush, Zeppelin, Floyd, Moodies,etc) and the occaisional camping trip to Barryville, NY. As for music that would shock other Yes fans, I happen to own one CD each from Tool, Nine Inch Nails, and Filter.
Is that shocking enough, or do I have to say I like the Bee Gees or some other bubblegum crap? NEVER!!!
Thats all I can come up with at the moment, but then again, I've said much about myself on other threads, as well as my profile...
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Postby EricBliss12345 » Sun Apr 08, 2001 12:26 pm

Awesome topic Proffet!

Anyways I'm 20 years old, soon to reach the big two-one June 27th! I can't wait to become an alcoholic and live at the bar! LOL

I've been a Yes fan for 16 years, ever since my dad bought me my very own cassette copy of Fragile when I was four (how nice of him, he already had it on vinyl!) Ever since then I've been hooked, and the sound of Rick's keyboards left me in awe and had a tremendous effect on me, I started piano lessons when I was 6 and I've been playing ever since! I dont know where I'd be right now if I wasnt playing music, and I owe it solely to Mr. Wakeman.

I've had the pleasure of seeing Yes 4 times, Union, Talk, Masterworks, and Ladder. Me and my dad dont really have any common threads and its kind of been a tradition for us to go see Yes shows together. I remember for the Union show I was like "Daddy are they going to play Awaken???" He said "No son, there's no way! But they'll still be good."
Lemmie tell you my face lit right up when I heard that piano intro! We were both pretty amazed! Especially my dad. I called that one from a mile away! I have about 30 Yes CD's plus most of their vinyl (which I prefer) even the 90125 solos EP. Ive also got a few videos as well, wish I couldve been at QPR!

When it comes to religion, I am indifferent. I believe that you should be a good person and follow a code of ethics of some sort, though not as strict or imposing as some religions. I believe that there is the great possibility that there is a higher power, but the different stories between the religions conflict severely, and if there isnt one that's right how can any of them be right?? Plus, the stories in the Bible are at conflict with the theories of scientific evolution. I would love to go to college and take some courses on religion, I find it quite fascinating. How come Noah didn't have any Dinosaurs on the Ark? Hehehehe...

I have recently sworn off dating for good! It's pretty tough to find a decent man. From personal experience gay kids my age are fickle, self-absorbed, and too queer for my tastes. I dont think Ive dated one normal guy yet. Its pretty frustrating, I think it would be really nice to date, but gay guys are so fucking stupid and faggy! They like stupid music and all they only things they care about are the mall and fucking. Most of my relationships have been pretty empty, Ive been out and dating for about 5 years now and Im not pleased in the least at what the gay circle has to offer. And that "gay accent" is not attractive in the least! Every time I hear somebody talking like that I feel like smacking them upside the head and reminding them that they're a man and should consider talking like one, instead of flapping their yaps off like overly sassy black women, along with the "Im flying just like a like a bird!" hand gestures. Im sure normal gays exist somewhere in the world, but probably in such small quantities that it doesnt make it even worth it to look. Someone dealt me a real shitty hand in the gene pool! LOL

I also play keys in a metal band, and we just got a manager and hope to be hitting up Ohio and New York and Pittsburgh, PA, the closest city to our hometown. I really hope this isnt the band I get signed with, but they are good friends and its fun, although musically its kind of hard to take it seriously at times! If you wanna see what I mean check us out at mp3.com, lessthanzero (couldnt have they thought of a more original name???? Damn!)

Anyways, my favorite bands consist of the usual suspects, Yes, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, ELP, and Genesis. I also really like Led Zeppelin, The Smashing Pumpkins (dont understand why more Yes fans dont like these guys!), Zappa, Tool, Cradle Of Filth, Marilyn Manson, Fear Factory, Dream Theater, Mr Bungle and Air.

I was such a techno-head for three years too. I was very much absorbed in underground house music, hard techno, trance, and some techstep jungle. Raves were my life and sole passion for several years until the end of last summer, the drug use was really taking its toll, my complexion was horrible, I never ate, and would stay up for days at a time, and doing very crazy things. One fun incident was when me and some friends drove 2 hours to a rave in Cleveland. They wanted to leave early and I wanted to stay, so I made them leave me there! It was nuts! I was stranded two hours away from home and had no definate ride! So i met these kids from Pittsburgh who invited me to spend the weekend with them. So we went to Pittsburgh PA and hung out for a day, then took off to Younstown Ohio to party for a couple days. 3 days later I eventually got home, it was a crazy weekend but so much fun! I mean sure, at the time I was using a lot of drugs heavily but I dont regret it in the least, with the exception of the pain I caused my family during this time. I had so much fun partying way too hard and consuming lots of drugs, mainly with ecstacy, crystal meth, and ketamine. We just look on the bright side and say how glad we are that its outta my system!

I had a clarifying experience though when I went to Berklee college of music last August for a week long guitar program (yeah Im a keyboardist, but I just needed an excuse to go there! They didnt have a keyboard program and i wanted the experience). The city was beatiful and the people were just amazing.
It was quite inspiring, and really influenced me to clean up my act and start taking music seriously again. It was the single most positive thing that has happened to me in recent history. And here I am today! Even though I was laid off from my job (where I slaved for 3 years) a few months ago and Im struggling with bills, Im still very positive and happy, and taking it one day at a time and feeling very lucky that I have my music to keep me sane and see me through life safely.

By the way my mom is a speech language pathologist too!

Thanks for reading my rant, nice to meet you too! Peace.
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Postby jackalz » Mon Apr 09, 2001 2:01 am

<font color=purple> It sure is great to hear more about you all.

Well, I love my two cats, but I love most dogs, and birds, and other animals, too. And they love me, mostly because I massage them instead of petting them. Since I live, alone cats are more practical, a little bit less needy. As I say that, one of 'em is meowing at me like I’m the cruelest owner ever.

Anyway, I'm probably categorized as a hippy wannabe. I like the freedom of not beholding to the norm as a standard, however I haven't found the stamina to stand up against it. So I get my normal haircut, and wear my normal clothes, do my normal job and pretend the world might be changed if I subvert from the inside, soon ecotopia will thrive.LOL I refer to my home as a Temple. It’s got a lot of stone walls, here and there are altars and homages to spirituality and ecotopian thinking. I go with the flow mostly, rarely do I schedule anything. I absorb alot from Yes music, the most important lyric for me is 'We don't even need to try. We are One.' So, even though I'd love to change the world, it's more important for me to appreciate it now, for what it is. And even when I don't appreciate it, that's OK, too. It's my main philosophy, but it doesn't always work, but it has a good track record nonetheless.

Definitely, my religion is a fascination for me. You’ve heard plenty of it, so I won’t go into too many details, but it has to do with actualizing real love. Part of that is tearing down, in myself, categories that divide me from the rest of the universe. So, more and more I recognize we are one.

Relationship-wise, I’m not a believer of monogamy for myself. I found that people, myself included, love more than one person. And I don’t think it’s healthy for me to deny my physical intimacy instincts. So, because I’m honest about that to all potential lovers, very few feel comfortable with that. However, I don’t believe in promiscuousness either, sex without real love is not satisfying. I’m bisexual, but generally I don’t tell very many people that. If someone’s getting to close to me (past the non-monogamy), then they will be informed. There are just so many more subjects to discuss that are more critical about who I am.

Drug-wise, marijuana would be my drug of choice, and I prefer to do that alone. And I haven’t done that in years, as my sources all dried up, seems it wasn’t worth the potential hassle of incrimination. When it was available I would get about two or three joints-worth and one-hit it for three days, I’ve got a pipe made in the New Mexico by one of my gurus, (for lack of a better word), of native American descent. Then I’ll meditate or zone out on Yes. After that, I wouldn’t crave it for about three months. Also, I plan on doing acid at least one more time, but if not, no big deal. That would need a four-day weekend. One day to rest up. One day to take it. Two days to recover. If ‘shrooms show up, they will be consumed. For now, beer will do.


Music-wise, Yes is the standard, and while there are lots of new proggers, I save my money for Yes related events. Now that I have cable internet, I’m starting to listen to Progradio.com and the Progressive, World Music and Jam Bands channels on Spinner.com, so now I have more to listen to and perhaps purchase. I do like Floyd, Moodies, Zep, Tull, early Genesis, early Police, early U2, but I really only love Yes music, and to a lesser extent, Mahavishnu and Joni Mitchell. Like most of you, I’ve been brought out of many, many negative thought patterns with the exquisite music of Yes, and many of Jon’s solo stuff, too. Audio-wise, I can also say I love the comedy of Firesign Theatre.

Activity-wise, I try not to be a vegetable, but I’ve been way too sedate, in my opinion. So, in an effort to get back in shape I tried joining a gym. That was going pretty well until my locker got broken into, so I can’t concentrate on my exercising in there, anymore. Now, I’ve signed up to play basketball on Tuesdays, to force myself to do something to prepare for it. I just started working for a progressive company that has exercise equipment and three miles of jogging/walking path. So I am excited about that.

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Postby theproffet » Wed Apr 11, 2001 7:51 am

Wow, I'm stunned by all the responses! I guess mostly because I'd imagined that almost every one else was male, over 35, hetrosexual and single, like yours truely. This is a far more intriguing demographic than I'd thought. Plus, it's nice to associate some one with their opinions; i.e., while Eric is younger than I, he was raised on the same albums, and Yessong, I want Eddy Jobson to play an Andorian!

Best wishes on your 21st Eric, but don't let anyone buy you a "cement mixer!" I hope you also write: your post was both funny and touching. I always enjoy a critical eye here, even if I don't always agree.

What else could I add about myself? I used to be a Wiccan, but my innate skepticism is winning out--now I consider myself a born again secular humanist, with anamistic leanings. I used to be a homophobe, for the same reasons that Eric mentioned, but the only person whose sex life I'm interested in anymore is myself. If single female Yes fans are interested . . . Well, they can post here! I like bicycling and spelunking, and have been known to crank up that really speedy part in "Sound Chaser" just before a long downhill coast, and lug a boombox into a secluded grotto to hear "Close to the Edge" in an underground ampitheatre. Favorite beverage--Leinenkugel's Honey Wheat Ale. Famous person I'd most like to have hanky-panky with--Kate Bush, OH YEAH! Favorite book--hmm, maybe The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, by Phillip K. Dick, but maybe Gormenghast by Mervyn Peake--I read a lot. Plus, I'm currently under-employed, and in a situation with THE LAW. Not a big deal, if I can get my expensive lawyer some money soon . . .<img src=icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby jackalz » Wed Apr 11, 2001 8:44 am

Favorite Beer: Guinness Extra Stout
Most Drunk Beer This Past Year: Natural Ice
Beer I'm Drinking Tonight: Schlitz

Favorite Beer Commercial: Bear Whiz Beer. "That's why it's yellow"
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Postby yeskat » Wed Apr 11, 2001 8:55 am

SquireFan:
TOOL? -- COOL!<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby N2yes » Wed Apr 11, 2001 11:28 am

Just one more as they always say! I have always liked Solzhenitsyn...favorite novel "Gulag Archipelago". He's a great writer but a hurt burt in real life ( used to live next door in Cabot, Vermont ). Favorite beverage...Heineken...can't help myself...love the dutch! Again, I'm a very politically minded individual...which reminds me. When are the Chinese gonna hand over our personnel? Well, I guess I shouldn't complain too loudly since we're not lobbing ICBM's at 'em and they haven't invaded Taiwan yet. Thank God for small miracles eh?<font color=blue></font id=blue><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby EricBliss12345 » Wed Apr 11, 2001 2:58 pm

Oh yeah yeskat, Tool fuckin' rocks! I would recommend Aenima or Opiate to anybody who hasnt heard them yet. Even though its considered their best album, I dont really care for Undertow that much. Its my least favorite TOol Release. Oh and by the way check out their killer version of "No Quarter" from the Salival Boxed set (or steal it off napster like I did). It rocks!

Thanks for the good luck Proffet, I cant wait to be legal! Just discovered my 2nd favorite drink last week, DNA. if you thought Zima was good this is way better. but doesnt hold a candle to my fave-A Long Island, but with Sprite instead of Coke. Next time you guys are at the bar order a long island but ask 'em for Sprite instead--I think youll be happy its tasty shit!

Proffet I dont blame you for once being a homophobe! Even though I am gay, I am disgusted by the majority of the gay population. They are promiscuous, femmie, repulsive, and full of themselves. I know this sounds like a stereotype, but its true! Not to say that there arent respectable, decent gay men out there, but they are few and far between. This is one reason why Ive decided not to date anymore:

1. 10% of the world population is gay
2. that's all over the world
3. in my area, probably .00000000000000000000000000000002% of the population is gay
4. In my area probably .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000012% of the population are gay that are worthwhile for dating.
5. This is just for dating only about .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000009% of these might be suitable to spend the rest of my life with.
6. When you divide everything up you aren't left with all that many people now are you! I quit!
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Postby massos » Wed Apr 11, 2001 4:10 pm

Hi Eric,

I used to be your typical middle class, white British male, university educated homophobe. But in my mid 20's I went to work out in Saudi in the Oil exploration industry and suddenly found myself, if not in a minority as a hetrosexual, at least working & living with a significant number of homosexual's. I then began to see things differently, realising what it must be like to be in the minority.
At first I felt very threatened and for no real nor logical reason. Anyway, eventually I made some great friends out there who were gay, and my boss out in Saudi who was gay, is still to this day the best manager I've come across; a great bloke.

I toured the world with some of these guys (we used to work 6 weeks then have 2 weeks R&R). These guys were decent, interesting blokes several of whom were in steady long term relationships. I've kept in touch with several. So don't give up on finding someone.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby theproffet » Thu Apr 12, 2001 3:21 pm

I got over my homophobia through my hetrosexulity--I just met a better class of women through gay friends. Intelligent, iconaclastic, women--OK "fag hags," but they liked escorts(or at least "bad boy" companions). Yet another secret revealed . . . but I've never been able to return the favor. So Eric, I'll trade an introduction to one of yours for one of mine . . . if you give me a Kate Bush, I try my damndest to give you a Rupert . . .<img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby massos » Thu Apr 12, 2001 3:43 pm

...yeah women are the best way to get over homophobia. But IMHO their are two types of homophobia. Theres the type we suffered from which is more to do with ones own inadequacies, adolescence, and having to learn how to attract women, which sort of makes one feel irrationally threatened by homosexuality. Then theres the totally unacceptable "right wing facist racis"t type whereby any minority is hated, be it blacks, Jews, Gays, simply for being a minority.
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Postby Yes-Loon » Thu Apr 12, 2001 5:24 pm

Hello all you yes fanatics. I´am as you perhaps know by now the Yes-Loon. I was born in the UK and have been living in Germany since 1994. I sell musical instruments so i guess my job is my hobby as I also play in a band called Like Water (check us out under WWW.Likewater.de). I´ve been into Yes since I was a little scroat, my father took me to see Yes and other bands like Floyd, Genesis etc in London in the late sixties early seventies, it was a great time as you can emagine.
I have an extensive collection of CD´s, DVD´s and Video´s, basicly everything that I can get my hands on over here.
I am 40 years young and still trying to be 20 years younger, it´s getting harder but I still don´t require Viagrer (Spelling)?
I am Married to Sylvia and have 2 off-the-old-block Julian 3 and Leon 1.
So enough about me, back to you folks!!
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Postby Squire*Fan725 » Fri Apr 13, 2001 11:29 am

<font size=4><font color=navy>I KNEW I had forgotten a thing or two! I too like the occaisional Miller Genuine Draft, but I'm partial to wine coolers, and that funny green tobacco I sometimes roll my own with. lol...
One of my favorite pastimes has been the NY Yankees. I've been to 2 games last year, and hopefully there'll be more to come. My hubby can easily get tickets to those. I call him my husband now because we've lived together for over 7 years, so that's commonlaw, although I would like to have that piece of paper making it permanent...
I'm also a cat lover, and once had about 12 of them running around my mom's house at one point (as a result of 2 of them having litters at the same time).
We now own a dog, which I could care less about, and wish we had'nt given away the cat we once had. So now I'm partial to fish (what would you expect from a Squire fanatic???). I presently have one Jack Dempsey swimming around in our 55 gallon high tank, and hope to get at least one more. I also have an algae eating fish called a Plecko, who somewhat resembles the Moorglade Mover (the tail, anyway).

My Yes collection is ever growing. I own CDs, DVDs, as well as VHS tapes, and thanx to Yourmove57 (hey, jooles!), I've now got that FOOW poster hanging on my wall (it has'nt fallen down, yet!).

Well I guess I'm done here, unless I remember anything else (that's what happens when you smoke too much weed..lol).
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<hr><font color=blue> float your climb...

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Postby Tomfoolery » Sat Apr 14, 2001 12:39 am

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So now I'm partial to fish (what would you expect from a Squire fanatic???). I presently have one Jack Dempsey swimming around in our 55 gallon high tank, and hope to get at least one more. I also have an algae eating fish called a Plecko, who somewhat resembles the Moorglade Mover (the tail, anyway).
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Partial to fish, huh? I can definitely relate to that... I have a 55 gallon planted community tank, my youngest son has a 30 gallon community tank (that I maintain with my oldest's help), my oldest has a 29 gallon community tank, I have a 10 gallon tank with an inherited beta in it, and a 35 gallon in the garage that's waiting for me to make up my mind as to what kinda fish I wanna put in it. My wife says I'm a fanatic. *grin* At the VERY least, I'm addicted... a "fishaholic", you could say.
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