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Postby jackalz » Tue Apr 24, 2001 2:58 am

Oops, sorry, it should look like this.
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Uh, oh, revealing... what a crappy computer tech I am.
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Postby jackalz » Tue Apr 24, 2001 10:48 am

This is kind of embarrassing, but I'm watching the VH1 Alanis Morissette behind the music and storytellers and crying about every three minutes. ...with chills up my spine.
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Postby earthmotherearth » Tue Apr 24, 2001 11:40 am

This is my first post and I guess it is a good way to get started.
My fist tour was 90125. I didn't know much about Yes before the show. As soon as we entered the arena I could feel that the vibe was different from anything I had felt before. Our seats were 3rd row Squire-side and the band blew me away. Squire in particular, and Jon of course.
One night after that I was listening to Hold On and it just clicked with me that there was more going on with this band than meets the eye. It took maybe a year after that for me to learn the back catalogue and solo stuff and by that time I was die hard.
Big Generator came out soon after. The tour was fantastic. We saw 5 shows and met the band for the first time on that tour. A great evening. We were hanging around the back of the stadium in Springfield, Ill and my good friend was talking to this very wasted guy about spirituality and stuff. My friend offered to give the guy a tape of Jon interviews that he had compiled with Jon talking about his views on lots of spiritual ideas so we walked back to the car to get the tape for the dude. When we got there the guy said how nice it was of us to give him a tape and he said "I'll take you to meet the band." So we went back to the hotel and the guys came down and we hung out in the bar with them for hours talking with the different members. Jon was amazing that night. He spent a lot of time talking with me about all aspects of spirituality, the nature of God, and the universe, etc. He was very loving and kind -- gave hugs all around, and kept stressing the fact that everything is within. "You find God in the temple within," he said more than once. We finally tore ourselves away from the "bar of heaven" at 3 or 4 am and drove back to Chicago elated.
Been married for almost 14 years now, we have a beautiful son and are pretty much living the life. We decided to channel the healing energy of Yesmusic into our life's work so when we realized that most of the world's environmental and social justice problems can be traced back to industrial agriculture we decided to start an organic farm to counter balance and spread consciousness. It is working pretty well. We seem to be making people happy. We just started a Grower's Market in Orlando that is building some much needed community. Next year we hope to start working in low income neighborhoods buliding community gardens and teaching nutrition. We are extremely interested in helping to preserve heritage breeds of plants and animals from extinction and are working on how to best accomplish that within our agro-ecolological environment. We are Universal Garden. Flowering endlessly.......
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Postby EricBliss12345 » Tue Apr 24, 2001 11:46 am

She teaches in a school, and she loved her job until a few years ago. The administrations fucking with her when she really knows what shes doing. I feel bad for her. She loves her job, but she can never see her students becuase shes always in administrative and/or parent teacher meetings and always has to cancel her lessons. Then they wonder why she doesnt have work done! I feel really bad for her, she loves her work, shes speech and language 24/7 and sometimes I just tell her to shut up and talk about something else! Only becuase what she says anymore is just out of frustration. Shame becuase shes good.

Hey earth mother earth are you on right now? your post came up really quick here!
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Postby yeskat » Wed Apr 25, 2001 1:51 am

Welcome, earthmotherearth!
You sound like a true "person of conscience". How I envy you -- meeting the guys and being able to really talk to Jon! I have heard many times that he is truly a kind-hearted individual and very outgoing. I am into organic foods. I'm not a vegetarian, but love my organic fruits and veggies. We keep a garden every year and have our fruit trees. Too bad our agricultual leaders don't do more studies into protecting us from harmful pesticides and radiation. I feel quite strongly about that since I live in a cancer-ridden area. I have had the big-C myself, and many aquaintances, also! I have considered starting a health-food store or market.
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Postby qman » Wed Apr 25, 2001 7:35 am

:(!]You are what you eat.<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby earthmotherearth » Wed Apr 25, 2001 8:21 am

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Welcome, earthmotherearth!
You sound like a true "person of conscience". How I envy you -- meeting the guys and being able to really talk to Jon! I have heard many times that he is truly a kind-hearted individual and very outgoing. I am into organic foods. I'm not a vegetarian, but love my organic fruits and veggies. We keep a garden every year and have our fruit trees. Too bad our agricultual leaders don't do more studies into protecting us from harmful pesticides and radiation. I feel quite strongly about that since I live in a cancer-ridden area. I have had the big-C myself, and many aquaintances, also! I have considered starting a health-food store or market.
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Thanks for the welcome. Good for you for eating organic! It definitely helps where cancer is concerned, both with treatment and prevention -- especially if you can get it fresh. What kind of trees do you grow? We are hoping to put in about 10 acres of fruit trees this year. I have no faith in the government as far as the ag situation is concerned, things are quickly going from bad to worse. The way they are proliferating GMO's, with no testing or real understanding of how these new transgenic species will interact with the rest of the web, should raise serious concerns about genetic pollution.

Yeah, it is always great fun to talk to Jon about all that stuff. He has such an uncluttered view of things - very simple and down to earth. I like that about him. I guess that is what has drawn me to the music. I always respected the band for being so forthright with their lyrics, and for staying true to the universal knowledge that comes through in their songs. It has set them apart and made them who they are IMO.

I am going crazy waiting to hear the new stuff they are working on! I bet it is fantastic. I think they got charged by last years Masterworks tour and are writing an amazing piece of music. I am looking forward to the tour will be doing Chicago, Atlanta, and maybe Blossom in Ohio.

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Postby yeskat » Thu Apr 26, 2001 3:12 am

earthmotherearth,
We have a pear, peach, cherry, and apple tree. It is so hard to keep the worms and bugs away -- not to mention the BIRDS! Nets are difficult to deal with, too! Any suggestions? We don't like to spray the pesticides, of course, and the organic stuff is expensive, and doesn't always seem to do the job! I know this is the problem for anyone raising their own produce. The organics always cost more, well, I know you've heard it all... Too bad that here in America, with all the intelligence we supposedly possess, they can't come up with more solutions--or pehaps I should say WON'T! I have come to the conclusion, as many people, that WE have to be responsible for out OWN health! That's also true for other areas of our lives... <img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
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earthmotherearth,
We have a pear, peach, cherry, and apple tree. It is so hard to keep the worms and bugs away -- not to mention the BIRDS! Nets are difficult to deal with, too! Any suggestions? We don't like to spray the pesticides, of course, and the organic stuff is expensive, and doesn't always seem to do the job! I know this is the problem for anyone raising their own produce. The organics always cost more, well, I know you've heard it all... Too bad that here in America, with all the intelligence we supposedly possess, they can't come up with more solutions--or pehaps I should say WON'T! I have come to the conclusion, as many people, that WE have to be responsible for out OWN health! That's also true for other areas of our lives... <img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I agree. I think more and more people are doing that too, it is encouraging.

I don't know what kind of zoning you have but chickens are a great sustainable management tool for orchards. They will eat all the bugs that overwinter underground before they can emerge in the spring and damage trees. Picking up any dropped fruit and picking damaged fruit is a good preventative measure. A lot of time when birds peck fruit they are actually looking for water. If you set some bird baths and ponds out and keep them filled with fresh water you can minimize a good deal of damage. Attracting beneficials is always a good idea. You can do that with flowering plants and by letting a patch of your yard go wild for refuge from the lawnmower.

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Postby theproffet » Thu Apr 26, 2001 4:16 pm

Yeskat, you're absolutely right, procreation must have a large effect on your life, and your veiw of politics, society, ect. And that's one reason why I haven't settled down yet.

Plus, I have been perhaps overly blessed by our Creator, who has brought forth literally myriads of beautiful women. In the past few weeks, the "sap has risen," winter coats have come off, and thinner sweaters are making their glorius spring appearence. I won't go into gory details, or admit to anything that could make Seryn blush, but I am smiling in public more lately. If I've not been posting here lately, please assume that I'm having a good time . . . <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby theproffet » Thu Apr 26, 2001 4:31 pm

<font color=purple>qman, I do not believe "you are what you eat." My expressions of affection bestowed upon the fairer flowers of our species should not define my masculinity. Metaphorically speaking, that is. </font id=purple><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby N2yes » Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:13 pm

Prof, I commend you on your splendid assemblage of words there. Likely the most clever yet subtlely delivered observation on the indulgences of male heterosexuality in ages. Kudos!!<font color=blue></font id=blue><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Seryn » Thu Apr 26, 2001 11:50 pm

I'm so mad at myself for missing this awesome topic!! But, since I am so obcessed with Yestalk, I have printed off all 71 replies so that I can read them in my sparse leisure time...and get to know all of you better. Proffet, I'm really excited about this topic...why didn't I think of it?

Well, I'm a 19 year old girl at a small college in the mountains of North Carolina working hard for her BA in biology as a naturalist, or more specifically botany. In my free time I play guitar, listen to music, and of course take care of the million pets that have writhed their cute little way into my small and humble home. Oh, not to mention working in the wildflower garden that I must say I am very proud of.

In the winter I just sit around waiting for spring, and in spring I am always outside...therefore halfway explaining my absence from the internet (the other half being schoolwork). I work in the financial aid office of my college. I have a big collection of Yes CDs and solo stuff from the members, and because of my other hobby...painting and drawing...I have several replications of Roger Dean's work on my walls. I am also a big fan of drawing Pokemon and collecting Pokemon stuff...that should shock you Yesfans out there!

Other bands I like include Live, Moody Blues, Pearl Jam, Creed, Beach Boys, and lots of other stuff.

I love playing electric, acoustic, and classical guitar...not too great on any of them, but I enjoy it all the same.

Oh...and I'm single. <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Again, I must say this is a great topic!

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Postby N2yes » Fri Apr 27, 2001 9:31 am

My dear Seryn, you wouldn't happen to be residing in Boone, N.C. attending college at Appalachian State U. would ya? Your description led me to suspect that's where you were. <font color=purple></font id=purple><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby EricBliss12345 » Mon Apr 30, 2001 1:43 am

Man Seryn youre so lucky youre in school! Ive been outta high school for almost three years now and Im starting to feel like a real loser. I was on my own for a while and loved it. Then my salary was cut more than half and i couldnt afford my bills, so i moved home, with plans of saving money, buying new keybaords, and getting my drivers liscense. Well right after my mom lent me 2 grand for equipment i lost my job. When I lost my job i lost my health insurance. Ths is bad becuase when i was going out for a driving lesson i ripped one of my contacts and i cant drive without them. And to make things worse I cant find a job in this shit town.

I feel like Im never gonna catch up with my huge amount of debt and it just keeps getting worse. I got myself trapped in a lot of bad situations and Im so dependant on my family now that I cant even get myself out of them. Ive lost ALL freedom, its a bummer. I cant do anything.

I really want to go to muscic school and Ive been practicing for auditions but Im just too fucked financially to worry about it now. It seems like when I turned 19, life started to get shittier and shittier. It keeps getting worse, Im appoaching 21 and the shittiness is showing no sign of slowing down! IM wondering when this is going to end!!!! I wanna go to school so I can make something of myself but here I am stuck here in New Castle like all the other white trash townies. Im starting to get pissed off so Im gonna quit now.
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Postby N2yes » Mon Apr 30, 2001 2:50 am

Eric,
Go a little easier on yourself man. You're in a helluva rut that's for sure but, it's always the darkest before the dawn ( unless, of course, pipers start showing up at your gates ). You will one day soon emerge from these stagnant quarters and look back upon them as just another page in your particular book of life. Now, if your surroundings are really insanely mundane, then you may wish to focus on the most expedient form of bill liquidation and eventual exodus. If the former is not possible, then surely the latter is and one sure-fire way to accomplish that goal is to go to school. There should be no reason you can't go to school. You must first research places where you think you can make a reasonable go of it. If music is your passion, then give it a try. There are only a thousand or more job fields one can earn a living from, and I mean a respectable living...a job where you look forward to going to work ( granted, they're not many of those out there but it sure beats flippin' burgers ). Times have changed significantly since I was your age when a person could just get up and head out with nothing more than a hope and a prayer and still get by. I hate to sound like a commercial but hey, one would be well served if they possessed a skill in today's job market. Prioritize...NOW, don't procrastinate. This whole affair may actually prove therapeutic for you as the doldrums often serve to enhance one's character as well as help you to zero in on what's most important in life. The bottome line is, obstacles are to be surmounted. You are way too young to let this keep you down.<font color=blue></font id=blue><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Seryn » Tue May 01, 2001 3:37 am

<font color=purple>You are close to the bull's eye, but not quite on it, N2Yes! When I say small college...I mean small college...but this one is close to ASU (I thought about going there to major in music, but ended up going to a quieter school with a good bio department). About...oh, twenty minutes away, I guess! Try to figure it out!

Eric, I wish I could just fix things for you! When you said that you had been to Berklee College, I thought that was so cool, but you'd probably like to still be there wouldn't ya? You know, I know when you are in debt and life is tight along with money, it is hard to see the sun behind all the clouds, but its there, I promise :) And if you did want to go back to school, I'm willing to bet you could do it. It is absolutely amazing at how much "Free" money is sitting out there stagnant waiting for students to use it. The treasure hunt is the hardest thing about getting to it. Once you find the money, getting it is a breeze. think about it! If there is anything I could do to help that's not against the law...:)...I'd be willing to help out! Oh, and I don't blame you one smidgeon for not dating. I don't either after one BAD relationship with a guy. I want you to know something...straight people are no better to date than homosexual ones! The case with people in general is that there are about 3,maybe 5, lemons to every jewel!

Everyone's been talking about cats and snakes...I thought I should add my love for both of them. I have two cats that are just rotten, spoiled, and awesome! And I love snakes...I've got a garter snake right now. He's beautiful and so sweet...not the stereotypic snake at all (most aren't). I also have a box turtle, a chicken, a dog, an anole, seven hermit crabs, an aquarium of fish (and 1 snail in it), and I catch things like frogs, salamanders, and other things to keep for a temporary amount of time. OH...I'm about to get a musk turtle added to the family, too!

Fragilesi--you said you were amazed at the religion topic in a Yes thread...check out check the "theology spillover #1" thread...it will blow your mind!

Jackalz...sorry about us mods not being around enough...geez, you'd think with two of us there wouldn't be a problem. But Ed is working really busily on a new album! and I'm working really busily with...school work :(

Earthmotherearth--I just love what you are doing with organic farming and awareness...is there anything I can do at my college to help with this organic project?
And thankyou so much for the little tip about birds seeking water in fruit! Maybe that will solve a few of my problems!

Oh, Prof!!!! I just wanted you to know that you start sounding like Ed when you talk about making me blush about...sex...I'm a virgin, but I'm not ignorant </font id=purple><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> But...maybe a little jealous of those girls ;) hee, hee

Well, guess I've gotta go clean out the recycling bins now...

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Postby yeskat » Tue May 01, 2001 2:50 pm

I just have to say that this forum is PACKED with a GREAT bunch of people! Seryn, Eric, and all you other "youngsters" have really regenerated my hope and vision for the younger generation! <img src=pix/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I just have to say that this forum is PACKED with a GREAT bunch of people! Seryn, Eric, and all you other "youngsters" have really regenerated my hope and vision for the younger generation! <img src=pix/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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This is a fascinating forum. Generally it seems that North Americans find it a lot easier than us Brits to open up and discuss these sort of topics. It would be interesting to know just how many younger fans there are
at this site. Its encouraging, I thought it was just the old farts like me left who actually liked prog music.

Whats with the snakes? There seems to be a lot of people who keep pet snakes in North America. Over here, unfortunately it gets a bad press since there have been a lot of cases of people keeping snakes and other reptiles in poor or dangerous conditions. I'm looking for a suitabe pet to buy my young daughters, one that requires low maintenance, but I think I'll pass up on the snake<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby earthmotherearth » Wed May 02, 2001 12:25 am

Seryn,

How did you discover Yes at your young age? I am really suprised and happy to see some younger fans here. I've alwasy felt I was on the youngish side of yesfans because I didn't get on board till 90125. Hard to believe that was 18 years ago.

You can probably get involved in some organic gardening with your college. If your school has an agriculture department they should have some kind of sustainable ag program. You should be able to meet some other students who would like to maybe work on a community garden or something. If you need more information email me (ugarden@atlantic.net) and I can help.

Be the body of your dreams........
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Postby N2yes » Sun May 06, 2001 11:18 am

Oh c'mon Massos...where's your adventurous spirit? Personally, I could give 2 cents to a damn less about the poisonous varieties. I really don't understand the layman's interest in those snakes myself. However, the really big ones are beautiful and just so impressive in size. If you have never handled one, you really must give it a try as it will likely be nothing like what you expected. Sure, they won't ever display the loyalty of a dog or the cleverness of a cat, but, they make quite a conversation piece! hehehe!<font color=blue></font id=blue><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Seryn » Mon May 07, 2001 12:49 am

<font color=purple>EME, I got started by my dad who was a Yesfan at the age of sixteen. He introduced me to Yes by teaching me how to play the first part of And You And I on guitar. I thought it was so cool, that I went right out and bought Classic Yes. Then...I just fell in love! </font id=purple><img src=pix/luv1.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_sleepy.gif border=0 align=middle>

This is a great topic! I'm glad that I've been able to check it out. I can't wait to get back to my usual habit of being on here at least an hour a day.

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Postby EricBliss12345 » Mon May 07, 2001 11:11 am

Oh I wish I was still there! For once in my life I was surrounded by millions of me's!! Finally I had tons of very freindly, intellegent, and funny people that I felt SO comfortable around. I got along with everybody and had lots of cool discussions with people. Of course my band thinks Im stupid because I dont know any cheesy one-liners and I know nothing about metal. Ive overheard the guitar player saying I'm dumb as a doorknob. This is coming from a hick who knows nothing but titties, truck parts, and heavy metal, and can barely play a guitar at that.

Lately Ive been starting to believe that Im stupid and good for nothing and have nothing to say, but thank god you reminded me of how I was at Berklee! You've just made me realize that its not me, Im just WAY out of my element. How can a person flourish in the wrong envioment? Me thinking that I could work with that band was such an outlandish idea now that I think about it. Its like trying to mate a Rhino with a buffalo. It's not going to work, and if it does youre gonna get some damn nasty offspring.

Well at least I got a job! About time! I start tomorrow, thank god!!!!
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Postby yeskat » Mon May 07, 2001 12:26 pm

Good for you, Eric!
I once worked at a place where the boss and a few of the co-workers loved to intimidate people. After being there for some time (I'm too embarrased to say how long) I began to believe I WAS inferior and couldn't do any better! Then I was offered a better job that would be a promotion and better pay, with more responsibility. Although my self confidence was zero, and I was really apprehensive, I knew I had to take it. I knew I was in a real rut and really needed the change. It was the best move I ever made! Staying in a rut becomes comfortable to us, and change seems like such a huge risk, but if you don't do it, you stagnate and cease to grow. I saw things in a different light. Those people didn't want me to succeed, because it would make them look inferior. They only wanted to hold me down with them.
When you are faced with the frightening challenge of making a change for the better, the best thing to do is feel the fear and do it anyway.
Also, the Yes song that has always been an inspiration to me in situations like that is To Be Over on Relayer. Put the song on and read the lyrics -- they're great! <img src=pix/icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby yesman90125 » Tue May 08, 2001 4:58 am

hi
well to start with i have heard the complaint about mods not being around enough.
I promise to do better. since the subject here is "all about me" i suppose I will start with a quick explanation as to why I haven't been around for a month or so '
its personal but this is the topic.
my eldest brother has been in a coma for several weeks as a result of a heroine overdose my family has all been at his side for as long as we could all afford to be actually a little longer. since he lives in florida and my computer is in wisconsin
i haven't been here to perform my moderater duties not to mention my job -unfortunately my brother is no better although there is an outside chance of a full recovery.
my life has been plauged with loss over the last three years most of my closest family has passed from one thing to another.
I was coming out of a long funk from the loss of my parents and now must deal with the hell of my brothers condition.
certinly not a very happy subject.
however my life does bring me much to be thankfull for
I am going on 17 years of marriage with my high school sweetheart -we were married very young and are very happy together we have 3 wonderfull children 16-13-and 9 years old.
I also am an animal lover though not a huge cat fan(i'm allergic). I have 3 dogs , 8 birds. 2 ferrets and fish in my extended family.
I play guitar and have for about 20 years
though i,ve only taken it seriously for about the last 10 years. i dont play much electric guitar anymore but play the accoustic regularly.
I'm a heating and Air Conditioning service technician and have been working at the same company for 12 years. I have an associates degree in electronics and another in marketing . i own a home in wisconsin -between milwaukee and green bay near lake mishigan. i tend to be a fan of classic rock though got into the whole seattle sound of the 90s too (and I am a huge Tool fan also)
my fav orite bands / artists are Yes-Rush-Genesis-Peter Gabriel- Jethro Tull-Led Zep-
mahavishnu orchestra- Ozzy /Sabbath- supertramp- the Doors- ELP-The Beatles-etc...
i spend alot of my free time Reading, mostly
about religion -though i couldn't call myself a member of any particular organized religion- i am strongly drawn to the eastern belief systems like hinduism and budhism.
i was baptised presbiterian and went to sunday school and church until i was about 12 when my parents said it was up to me if i wanted to continue going - i didn't really feel a part of their chosen faith so I decided to stop going- with recent events i've tried to take a renewed look at the protestent religion though I still dont feel as if I belong there
I guess I'm "looking for a sign that the universal mind has written me into the passion play" though i've not yet seen the sign-I keep hoping.
I enjoy alot of out door activities like skiing-skating- mountain climbing -hiking-biking-swiming -boating-and off road motorcycling. my political philosiphies tend to the right I consider myself a libertarian- though I often vote republican I dont agree with their political stance on most social issues but i dont see them as agressivly trying to legislate their social agenda.
I'm a person who believes strongly in a persons right to persue their dreams as long as it doesnt harm others i believe strongly in freedom and individual rights while still recognizing the need for some sort of government and rule of law.
as far as drinking and drugs are concerned I have experimented with almost all of it
but really dont use any drugs other than marijuana i have an occasional drink but rarely ever get drunk. my plate is pretty full so theres not nearly enough time to spend with old friends not to mention meeting new friends- so i guess if i could change one thing it would be to have a better social life. I was once a " hippy wannabe" but I saw certin limitations as well as some conflicts with my philosiphy.
although most of my friends are tree huggers it makes for good arguing about certin things but we still tend to agree more often than not.its just my priorities are a little different.
over all I have to agree with those who would say we are all one
we certinly need each other -the whole human race- I have to agree with Harry S Truman
who said
what a paradise this world could be if we could learn to work together


NU SOMMES DU SOLIEL
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Postby Tomfoolery » Tue May 08, 2001 8:50 am

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my eldest brother has been in a coma for several weeks as a result of a heroine overdose my family has all been at his side for as long as we could all afford to be actually a little longer.
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Well, being Christian, Yesman, I'm going to add your brother and you and your family to my prayers and ask the greatest healer/doctor that ever lived to help ya'll out.

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I am going on 17 years of marriage with my high school sweetheart -we were married very young and are very happy together we have 3 wonderfull children 16-13-and 9 years old.
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I too am married to my high school sweetheart.. well, actually, SHE was in high school when we met.. I was just graduated.
We're working on our 18th year now. 2 kids.. 14 and 9.


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I also am an animal lover though not a huge cat fan(i'm allergic). I have 3 dogs , 8 birds. 2 ferrets and fish in my extended family.
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I'm a huge animal lover as well, although all we own of the four-legged variety is a cat. Been thinking about a dog and want to get one, but don't own the home as yet (trying to buy it, but haven't succeeded in convincing the owner yet). However, I'm a DEFINITE fan of the finned variety of pets.. I have 4 tanks set up in my house (a 55 gallon, a 30Long, a 29 gallon and a 10 gallon) and 2 in my garage (a 35 gallon and a 10 gallon hex that will soon be on my desk at work). The 55 and the 29 are both planted tanks, the 30 is fake plants but really pretty (my wife aquascaped it) and the 10 is a quarantine tank for new arrivals (or a hospital tank in the unfortunate event one of my pets gets sick in some way).

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my fav orite bands / artists are Yes-Rush-Genesis-Peter Gabriel- Jethro Tull-Led Zep-
mahavishnu orchestra- Ozzy /Sabbath- supertramp- the Doors- ELP-The Beatles-etc...
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Except for the Mahavishnu Orchestra, you just described a rather large portion of my music collection.. I have stuff from ALL those bands and many many more of the same ilk.

Seems like we have a lot in common, Yesman... I'm glad you posted this...
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Postby jaynote1 » Tue May 08, 2001 10:57 am

You know there has been a lot more information given in this thread than I would think most of us would want to know about each other. but since we're spilling the beans here, I guess i will, too. So here goes:
I am 39, married, heterosexual, a social drinker, former drug abuser (Coke was my drug of choice), Christian (methodist), a father or four, grandfather of 1, an asst dispatcher at a moving-and-storage co., a guitarist ( I can play a fair bit of steves stuff), a want-to-be singer. I enjoy Nascar racing(Winston Cup-go Gordon). I dont have any interesting or unusual hobbies-I work, come home,eat,sleep and get up and go to work again. My income is rather modest, and i dont do much traveling. I have run up and down the East coast when I was Driving for the same company that I work for now. I lived in Oregon for a couple of years, the most beautiful place in the world! My musical tastes run toward the Classical. Yes,of course, and Gentle giant. I like the west coast jazz stuff-Spyro Gyra,et al. I saw someone mention Mahavishnu Orchestra-I used to really like John Mclaughlin. I like Bach and Beethoven, the more baroque stuff.I like counterpoint in music, and unusual time signatures. my guitar influences are Steve, Pat metheny, Steve morse(Dregs),Al dimeola.
I really like Return to forever-Chick Corea is incredible.
My reading is pretty much limited to the daily newspaper, the Bible, and Readers Digest(I dont have the time to do much more). My time is pretty much taken up by work, my family and my YARD! My idea of a good time is grilling in the back yard, while having a beer with my wonderful, beautiful wife, while yelling at my kids to quit running near the grill and to turn that awful music down(rap,M+M,other nameless and talentless bands).When I think about it, my life probably looks pretty boring when one reads this, but I like my life and who I am and as long as my wife continues to love me Ill be allright.
thisll get me that pulitzer.
jay

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Postby every1is1 » Tue May 08, 2001 12:25 pm

Yesman90125, Wow! That's heavy! Especially the "we are one" part...I liked that part<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
You see, I woke up to <img src=pix/icon_smile_sleepy.gif border=0 align=middle> when I was waking up to the one in all of us, the living one.
In fact, a good friend of mine, a true hippy from the sixties turned me on to both, the idea that we are one person, and Yes <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>
So I dabbed into yes, dabbed into a philosophy, a little of this, a little of that, and I went flying, a little too high.
It reminds me of that song by Kansas..."once I rose above the noise of confusion, just to get a glimpse beyond this allusion. I was soaring ever higher, but I flew too high..."
or it's like that song...Helter Skelter..."When you get to the bottom, you go back to the top, of the slide, and you stop, and you turn, and go for a ride, and you get to the bottom, then you see me again"
I believe <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>is all about the truth, if you know what I mean....and I know you do.
Cool, Yesmans90125, nice to know someone whom I can really relate to.

You see, I got into Yes on the Union album and, initially, only went back to 90125 to get into them more.....and I love their 80s stuff, which is stuff a lot of "traditional Yes fans" generally frown upon, and I'm sure they have their reasons. But, all of that Yes was new to me, and I ate it up.
Union really spoke to me...Shock to the System, Lift Me Up, all of it, its all about And You and I
I have a tendency to ramble...peace.<img src=pix/icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby PapaJimH » Wed May 09, 2001 5:03 am

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Favorite Beer Commercial: Bear Whiz Beer. "That's why it's yellow"
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"Uncle Thomas Dabree Quadroole honey, I'ze black, and I'ze beautiful."
"It's hotter than Hooker in Heater today, and hotter than Heater in Hellmouth. It's hotter than hell in here."
"Hey Pat! This sucker's only 50 feet deep. This is the easiest goddamn money I ever made."

This comedic reminicsence brought to you by the old man's fried memories of Firesign Theater.
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Postby theproffet » Wed May 09, 2001 7:08 am

<font face='Tempus Sans ITC'><font size=4><font color=red>Damn, Papa Jim, I was just in the local disc emporium, and I didn't think about looking in the comedy section--I did pick up the Transatlantic--I'm soaking in it now . . . Glad to see you're still droppin' by. I should post on your board, but I'm waiting for the perfect balance of intoxication and clarity. I know it sounds paradoxical, but it's one of those Zen things . . .

Nine-oh-one, I just thought you might have had spring fever like I did. I guess we've both been through a lot lately; it never rains, it pours. But if you're interested in at least semi-organized religion, I'd feel remiss if I didn't point you in the direction of the Unitarian-Universalists. I was involved in a church once, because I was a Wiccan, and they even had a large section of us, along with Buddists, Christians, People trying to make up their minds, and even Atheists. UUs take a lot of kidding for being hard to pin down, but the tolerance and ecclecticism are refreshing for a mainstream denomination.

Eric, I've always believed metal heads were pretty funny--you just need a sense of humour about these things . . . </font id='Tempus Sans ITC'></font id=size4></font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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