At This Moment Part II



Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tribute1969 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:14 am

WAR IS OVER! IF YOU WANT IT!
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WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT SPIRIT HERE SINCE 1969...
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:17 pm

Had another round of no home internet last night - finally was able to get things working with Comcast on the phone . . . it's been a real challenge keeping it running there over the last year . . .

At work now . . . lots of loose ends today, a new project to start, meeting with my director this afternoon about another one . . . things just never stop around here . . . :)
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:08 am

Tribute1969, I dont mean to group you with every one else I know who who thought bands where awesome because they where on drugs. I beleive and have met many, who just dig music, like Janis Joplin, most people feel she sucked as a singer, but she was great, deserving of much more then the DOORS, there is a differnce. I love to have a few drinks and listen to music, but I am so happy, that I have never had to always had to be wasted to enjoy music, really, I enjoy, and always have enjoyed music 80% of the time when Im totally straight. I really have no love for some of these bleeding hearts, like toby keith or sheryl crow, just play music, left or right, I find most of them to be WRONG.
I really liked what you said about Ted Kennedy, If it had been anyone else, they would have been thrown in jail and never considered a viable person. But Im a realist, he was a Kennedy, DUH, he wasnt going to jail. And at the expense of my conservitive freinds, I beleave he tried to do the best he could with his life, wheter I agree with what he did or not. Kennedy was a leader, atleast he voted, he didnt just vote present his entire time, I RESPECT THAT.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:10 am

playing with my turtle
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:15 am

he loves scrambled eggs
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tribute1969 » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:27 pm

THIS is when a corporation does GOOD...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090906/BUSINESS01/909060348/Hard+Rock+lends+staff+to+charities

THIS is when a community/county does BAD..
I have a 17 high school senior who wants to see this..oh well,
she can see it at the alternate time....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32692306
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:25 am



Kudos to the Hard Rock Cafe - this is excellent, and they'll reap the rewards of treating people well . . . :)



tribute1969 wrote:THIS is when a community/county does BAD..
I have a 17 high school senior who wants to see this..oh well,
she can see it at the alternate time....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32692306



This is lunacy . . . since when do schools quibble about kids seeing the President speak?
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:55 am

If the president was doing anything that was right, why did they change the speech, and why did they drop the follow on work. If you right, or even if you think your right, you lead and carry on with your plan. So why did they cahnge the speach and drop the follow on work. Either way, it shows he thought he was wrong, or he dosnt have what it takes to lead, or he is worried about a bunch of whinng republicans.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:59 am

I dont listen to anything MSNBC says, ofr even what the lipstick girls on FOX say. What I do listen to is what obama said. Tonight he will say you can keep your insurance, but what people wont remember is a speech he gave 2 years ago. When he said the same thing, but then said, after time he expects the private insurance companies to fail. But know one here remembers, or bothers to remember that speech.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:10 am

the evil insurance companies are making SOOOOOOOOO much profit. take a minute to go to a financial page and see that the top insurance company, out of 1300 made 4 percent profit, most made much less, as of June. Microsoft made 20% profit, why are they not after them. In California you can, espeacilly small buisness can only select from SIX INSURANCE companies. could you imagine if the government would let you select insurance over state line, you could choose from 1300 companies. You dont think that amount of compatition would change things. I also dont want to be fined so much money a year, when I still choose not to take government health care, when I still have one that I am happy with. I almost dont listen to the news at all on this subject, compared to the actual words that have come from Obamas mouth over the past 10 years.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:17 pm

Deciding whether or not to go to Chicago tomorrow . . .

We thought we had tix to a Todd Rundgren concert there . . . a friend in Chicago was handling the details through his connections. Now it appears that they tix may fall through - I've already got the trip planned and would have fun regardless . . . what to do . . .
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby Greenglade's Frog » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:59 pm

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Fire in my city was put out within 2 days. Air getting easier to breath...

No air conditioner, 90F in the house. Had a fan and lots of popsicles.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby Greenglade's Frog » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:04 pm

tribute1969 wrote:The Greenglade AND Tardis postings of partying, getting tall, etc reminded me of this:
and I recently enjoyed watching Grace Slick sing this in '69..at Woodstock...

Watched part of "Festival Express-1970" today as well..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_Express

WHITE RABBIT -- Jefferson Airplane
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Call Alice
When she was just small

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"


That's what my babysitters were doing that night long ago I think....
I remember being a dept store with my mom and I saw this photo of distorted faces on album covers or newspapers and I enquired and mom said "that's what happens when u take drugs"....
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby Greenglade's Frog » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:05 pm

tardistraveler wrote:Greenglade - sounds like that party shaped your personality . . . ;)

At work trying to stay awake - I've had a couple of late nights working on my computer at home, but I think I've FINALLY got the internet running reliably there, and have reinstalled most of the software I usually use.

J.J. started college today. He just called after his first class to say they had gotten out early, being the first day and all, and that his class tonight might get out early too. So, I just told him to call me when it was over, and I'd come pick him up. Unfortunately, he doesn't have his own wheels yet . . . I'm sure that will come at some point . . .

He's recuperated very well from the surgery, is off the pain meds, and isn't hurting like he used to when physically active! His follow-up with the surgeon is tomorrow, so we'll know more about what he's allowed to do at this point.


I have never been much of a potsmoker; in fact, I usually have "bad trips". Think I am brain-allergic to THC
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby Greenglade's Frog » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:10 pm

One highlight of the summer is I went surfing at Haggerty's (spot mentioned the Beach Boy's song) during freak 7 -foot summer swell(place is a winter break takes N. swells)
Went over the falls, fell off near a rock reef, but did have a good chuckle at myself on shore. Seems I need one of those logs(long boards) like the oldtimers used to use, not a 7'6. Too hard to jump to feet and paddle....

Putting new strings on my guitar. Fingers really out of shape......
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:57 am

if the summer cahnge to winter yours is no disgrace, what am I listening too, guesss
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:00 pm

tardistraveler wrote:Deciding whether or not to go to Chicago tomorrow . . .

We thought we had tix to a Todd Rundgren concert there . . . a friend in Chicago was handling the details through his connections. Now it appears that they tix may fall through - I've already got the trip planned and would have fun regardless . . . what to do . . .


After I posted this, I learned that there were still a few tix available through Ticketmaster, so I managed to cop what appeared to be the LAST two! My friends were able to get some through a guy on Craigslist, so we all wound up at the concert!

LOTS of fun - Todd was in good form. He played "A Wizard, A True Star" in it's entirety and it was fantastic!

Also bought some of the Beatles remasters while there and listened in the car - OMG - these are INCREDIBLE! :eek: I was tripping on the music BIG time! A must buy for any Beatles fans, or just those who love well-crafted music - I heard notes and instruments that I never knew were there!
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby yesireebob » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:42 pm

I ordered the Beatles remasters from Amazon, the whole box set thing. I hesitated, wondering if it was really worth it. I kept reading about how great they are, but to hear it from you, Diane, makes me glad I did. Can't wait to get that, and the Incident, which has been dispatched but not yet arrived.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:10 am

At this moment, I cant sleep, I am watching over my mom, who has been ill lately, Im going to take her to the doctor tomorrow. This is a painfull wait of a few hours. My Dad Died just a few hours ago, I wanted to fly out to his present wife as soon as I heard, but I cant leave my mother alone, I need to be here for her. i have taken care of my mother for years, she has been mentally chalenged for a long time, and deserves my attentionIts not her fault she has been crazy. My dad was one of the kindess people I have ever know. He stayed with my Mom, even for years after all the kids where gone, even though he had suffered 2 strokes and a heart attack from years of stress of being with her. I love them both so dearly. My mom has been very ill these past few days, and I figured it was her time, not my dads. Hence I can not leave here to be with my dads present wife, till I know my mom is ok.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:55 pm

yesireebob wrote:I ordered the Beatles remasters from Amazon, the whole box set thing. I hesitated, wondering if it was really worth it. I kept reading about how great they are, but to hear it from you, Diane, makes me glad I did. Can't wait to get that, and the Incident, which has been dispatched but not yet arrived.



You will NOT regret getting the remasters!

I posted on another site that they're "musical LSD" . . . honestly . . . I was tripping just LISTENING to these! It's almost like hearing them for the first time!

I bought Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, the White Album, and Abbey Road. I plan to get the remainder as $$ allows . . . looking forward . . . seriously, it's almost like NEW Beatles music! :eek:

I'm looking forward to The Incident as well - waiting for the store release next week . . . I've got some cards at Best Buy and Target, so hopefully one of those will have it . . . otherwise I've got a discount card at FYE . . . ;)



Lizard - I'm SO very sorry to hear about your dad, and your mom's illness . . . love and hugs to you . . .

(((((((((((((((Lizard)))))))))))))))))
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby 2Lizard4 » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:34 am

Listening to mike and the mechanics, In the living years. I did say what I need too to my Dad and everyone that I love. I feel sad to see the advertisments when logging on, there are these cool people with there hands making some kind off signs, and they have writtin some songs a grade schooler could have wrote and they are famous becuase of the kindergarden people think they are great. I get down on my knees and thank God for the people, who I have met, that never had an audience, but made more of a difference in this world, and who lived lives that 99% of the population could never understand.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:31 pm

Lizard, how's you mom doing?

Finally back online here - spent LAST week on jury duty - it was a murder trial, and presented pretty badly so no one was really clear by the time we got to deliberation if there was enough evidence to convict the guy or not. We spent 7 hours combing back through all the evidence presented, and finally reached a verdict of 2nd degree murder. The prosecution had asked for 1st degree, but we didn't feel that this guy had really planned things out.

It was a sordid tale of drug dealers - lots of cocaine, guns, bullet-proof vests, beat up cars - all were testified about and entered as evidence.

In the end, I just thought it all really sad - all the folks involved were so young, and so many lives were impacted by all this . . . :(
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby yesireebob » Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:07 pm

Good for you Diane, being a juror is a tough, inconvenient but very necessary service to perform. Criminal trials are frequently messy affairs and can actually be quite tedious if the case involves a lot of expert testimony re ballistics, DNA, etc. They are rarely the engaging, orderly proceedings portrayed on TV shows, nor do they have the same satisying results, all tidily wrapped up in a message or a moral. They are about facts, not fiction. And the facts normally are neither clear nor pretty. This is why we must depend on the common sense of the average reasonable person to achieve justice. Again, good for you.
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Postby tardistraveler » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:57 am

In this case, there were DNA samples taken at the scene, but no results presented in court. I wondered why they even bothered to mention taking the samples if they weren't going to present anything. And then there was the t-shirt found in the defendant's car that tested positive for a bloodstain, but NO DNA sample was even taken! It would have been nice to know if that bloodstain was the victim's blood.

Most of the testimony was eyewitnesses attesting to things that happened before and after the crime, so you had to determine what you thought was true out of the hodge-podge.

In the end, it was some non-existant speakers that made the difference - really weird. The speakers were the consistency among all the witnesses, although they disappeared after the last witness saw them, and weren't presented as direct evidence in court.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby yesireebob » Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:14 pm

Before trial, the parties normally litigate what will and what will not be presented to the jury. The jury decides the facts, but the judge decides which facts will be allowed or excluded, suppressed or otherwise not presented. This will sometimes leave holes that the jury can only wonder at. Also, scientific testing is very expensive and can take a very long time, it is not always necessary to prove a case, and in any event the results can be inconclusive. Television has ruined jurors forever with that whole "CSI effect." Contrary to popular belief, there is nothing wrong with circumstantial evidence.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:06 pm

There were definitely a lot of "holes" that we wondered about. There was this one guy that everyone was asked if they knew, but he didn't testify, so we wondered what was so important about him? Just seemed strange to me that they would bother to TAKE the DNA samples, but then not tell the results - perhaps they yielded no important clues, but it would have been nice to know. And then you've got the defendant in possession of a bloody shirt - just made sense to me that they'd try to find out WHOSE blood it was, to seal the case. We could have very easily been a hung jury, or even found the guy not guilty, because there were just so few facts that seemed relevant.

I do understand that testing is expensive, and in this case there was enough evidence to convict, but just barely.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby yesman90125 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:22 pm

2Lizard4 wrote:Listening to mike and the mechanics, In the living years. I did say what I need too to my Dad and everyone that I love. I feel sad to see the advertisments when logging on, there are these cool people with there hands making some kind off signs, and they have writtin some songs a grade schooler could have wrote and they are famous becuase of the kindergarden people think they are great. I get down on my knees and thank God for the people, who I have met, that never had an audience, but made more of a difference in this world, and who lived lives that 99% of the population could never understand.

Terry, I'm sorry to hear about this but glad you worked it out in the best way you could.
I suspect the low traffic rate here might have nessesitated the adverts though they didn't come up today
Ed (the site owner was always a sticler for keeping the ads to a mimimum
the popup add was annoying and I'm glad it's gone, not that I'm really an active member here anymore , but still for those that are I could see that being an annoyance.

it may sound like sour grapes but the way things were allowed to spiral out of contol for some time , I think scared a few folks off
me for sure
though I was involved in the spiriling to some degree I still maintain I was 80% in the right
But the site suffered and it drove some away I'm sure
I'm really just sharing what I should probably in a PM to you
but some of the things that went back and forth betwen another member and I (you saw the tail end of it) Caused a lot of bad feelings
most of them unresolved to this day and dragged a lot of people that weren't interested or involved into the mess.
and a lot of people simply just became fed up with
1)-any discussion of a political nature
2)- the ongoing increasing disfuntion of the band that the site is dedicated too
3)- the Yesworld link to another Yes related site
4)- the willing ness of the other site to put aside a place to discuss more contraversal topics unrelated to Yes (news, current events, politics , religion etc.)

So in order for Ed to keep paying for the site (that I dont see he himself using very much)
I imagine some clever marketing was required

I see that roughly 1400 posts have been made since my last log in

I just cant see really what they are or where

I would have to refamiliarize myself with the navigation to sort that
and the navigation changed about the time I was banned
I did receive a great deal of encouragement from staff and membership to return.
However when I did return, only Chris 2210 acknowlaged it
so I basicly drop in every month or two now to see whats up and
Post enough to allow my friends to know I'm alive

Though again I get so little response that I wonder if there's a point to that-
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Postby Greenglade's Frog » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:48 pm

One of those rare days actually listening to some Yes. Got the Yessongs cd on mini-boom box.
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby tardistraveler » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:19 pm

Hi, Chris - glad you stopped by!

And good to see Greenglade as well . . . nice to see the familiar faces on this thread . . . :D

As to the navigation here - I don't think it's changed in some time? You can still find all the off-topic stuff here in Other Skylines . . . Linda's always posting something about new bands and new CD's in Alternate Tunes . . . there's a group of us having fun with word associations. . . . I think there's been a few reviews of the Yes tour posted as well in Yestalk.

I'm sure Ed is doing what he needs to to keep this place running - and I'm thankful he does! :)

I've always thought of this as my "vacation home" - that laid-back place where I can come and relax with friends, and just have some fun . . . :cool:
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Re: At This Moment Part II

Postby Greenglade's Frog » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:27 pm

Straightt light moving and removing Sharpness of the colour sun shine Straight light searching all the meanings Of the song Long last treatment of the telling that Relates to all the words sung Dreamer easy in the chair that really fits You"



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<H3 class=UIIntentionalStory_Message data-ft='{"type":"msg"}'>"Gold stainless nail, Torn through the distance of man as they regard the summit. Cold reigning king, Shelter the women that sing As they produce the movement. River running right on over, Then over my head. outboard, river."----name that tune

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