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The Beatles

Postby N2yes » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:07 am

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Postby N2yes » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:33 am

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Re: The Beatles

Postby yesman90125 » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:10 am

I am suprised that this one fell so far to the end I was about to start a Beatles thread then I found this

I loved john and George so much but pauls undeniable ability to write wonderfull songs did kind of put him in the spotlight as a solo artist
sort of the common man of the beatles as John and George were seen as being a bit "FAR OUT" thats one of the things i love about those 2
its too bad that they were only together for 10 years "Imagine" what boundries of progressive psycedlic rock and pop and experimental stuff they all could have come up with had they remained together
I think had john lived and george lived a little longer that there wouldve been some sort of project featuring all 4 of them .I love all the music and all the personalities involved . they were my first musical obsession
way back in ......19.................76 lol
but even though they were allready broken up for 6 or 7 years by that time they were still like today , played all the time although a little more variety was played back then like with all the big named bands of the 60s and 70s I miss those 2 guys alot the world was a better place with John Lennon and George Harrison in it!
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Re: The Beatles

Postby guilddigger » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:57 pm

The Beatles were my musical obsession as a teenager and George Harrison is the sole reason I wanted to play guitar. In most of my gigs I play at least one of his songs as a tribute and thank-you to him. He was and still is my inspiration in so many ways.
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Re: The Beatles

Postby N2yes » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:01 am

A walk down Penny...er, i mean memory lane. Should bring back a few.

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Re: The Beatles

Postby sound_chaser » Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:18 pm

For my first post as moderator of this forum, I’m going to nail my colours to the mast right away and say that, for me, nothing and nobody comes before The Beatles: they are the be all and end all. I kind of see rock music as everything before The Beatles and everything after: that’s how highly I rate them. I feel very lucky to have lived through the era, even if I was a toddler when they hit the big time with Please Please Me. And the trajectory they made from Love Me Do in 1962, to Strawberry Fields Forever and A Day In The Life in 1967 is without parallel and astonishes me still when I think about it. I live and breathe The Beatles and I look forward to many lively discussions about them particularly over the weeks, months and years to come.
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Re: The Beatles

Postby ImstillYesmam » Sun May 04, 2008 5:27 am

I don't know if I can articulate how I feel about the Beatles. Their whole body of work has never been nor will ever be equaled. John was always me favorite (I think everyone has a fav. beatle, don't they?) his death was as stunning to me as it was for everyone else I think. George's dying was just so damn sad. I have to be honest and admit that I don't know WHAT to make of Paul McCartney any more. And RINGO!! I see Ringo every time he tours and can't help but love him, he always brings great guests with him, sings the old songs, some Beatle stuff and some of his solo stuff and he always is entertaining!!

The world is a much better place of the Beatles having been in it.

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Re: The Beatles

Postby john mccleary » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:18 pm

As a bass player my older brother turned me on to Paul.As a young man I thought he was really good.But when I heard Chris and Getty that was it.I do like the White album and Abbey road the best.Just a thought. :) [:yes] .
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Re: The Beatles

Postby Chris2210 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:09 pm

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Re: The Beatles

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Re: The Beatles

Postby yesman90125 » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:23 pm

as pleasant as the earliar work was,and i love it all
pretty much everything after rubber soul blew me away
now i just take it for granted
but when you think about it it's pretty incedible
i can see what chris is saying where do you start
without almost talking about each song individually and the leaps and bounds of which the fabs grew even on into many of the solo records
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Re: The Beatles

Postby Kalingzeye » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:02 am

Speaking of the Beatles, my sister and I watched Across The Universe yesterday. Eh. It was quite the visual experience, but I'd have to say without the Beatles songs backing it up the whole way, the movie itself really lacked substance. x_x I was sad, too, I was hoping it would be really spectacular. Or something. The songs didn't even fit that well, and were a little weirdly placed IMO. Then again, it gave me yet another great and interesting perspective on the Beatles catalog... it's amazing what different directions can be taken on all of those individual songs. That being said, I much prefer that older Beatles musical, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" from 1978... loved that one. :p
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Re: The Beatles

Postby Kalingzeye » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:41 am

Yeah, I dunno. Liked what they did with the songs, but it didn't quite live up to the hype for me.

And HECK yes. That old(ish) movie was played a lot on Comcast's free movie networks... like this past year or so... and I've watched it a few times. At first I didn't get it either, but after watching it all the way through I really started liking it. It was a bit more representative of the Beatles' work, I felt, too, although a little more abstract. Perhaps that's why it seemed to fit more? Plus it had SO many people I love in it, lol~~~ Frampton, the BeeGees, Steve Martin, Earth Wind & Fire, Aerosmith, Alice Cooper... plus sooooo many more suprise cameos. Loved it for that... :D I guess I found that movie to be more like an homage to the Beatles than anything else, while Across The Universe felt like it was trying to be ambitious, but it just wasn't quite enough. Great music, though~ ;)
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Re: The Beatles

Postby sound_chaser » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:12 am

What's with this Across the Universe thing...a documentary, or something? I remember when the Sgt. Pepper film came out, but it was slammed so badly, that I've never got around to watching it. I'll have to keep an eye out for both those things. Lucy In The Sky did very well for Elton in the UK as well, as did his version of Pinball Wizard, that he did for the film of The Who's Tommy.
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Re: The Beatles

Postby Chris2210 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:03 pm

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Re: The Beatles

Postby sound_chaser » Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:40 am

Chris, I realised that I hadn’t replied to the above post and the main reason for that, was that I hadn’t seen the Howard Goodall series you spoke of…much to my regret, I might add. But looking at this post again, I had the bright idea of looking on Youtube. And sure enough, all six parts of it were there. Obviously, I have always been aware of the classical music connections with Beatles music, but I just wasn’t able to talk about it intellectually. But that’s never been a problem, because The Beatles weren’t either. I remembered a famous quote from Lennon saying that Aeolian cadences sounded like exotic birds to him. I looked on the internet and found this information:

“In many ways the songs of the Beatles are exemplary for the musical innovations the British beat explosion wrought onto the domain of popular music in the sixties. With their music the British groups forged a highly original combination out of the erstwhile separate elements of other musical styles, which quickly evolved to become a full-blown style of its own: the music we nowadays know as pop or rock music. The Beatles stood at the front-lines of this artistic movement and their songs offer worthwhile material for those who want to know more about the musical characteristics of rock music. And, there's help for those who want to study these songs. Since 1989 everyone can look for assistance on the internet in the Notes on ... Series, written by the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack on each and every Beatles' song.

Chains of pan-diatonic clusters. Think yourself back to the city of London at the end of the year 1963 and meanwhile keep in mind that the virus of Beatlemania at that moment still was restricted to the British Isles and beat music was seen as music for adolescent boys and girls. Then and there only a few adults took the sound of the four Beatles seriously. Yet there were some who did and among them there was at least one real musicologist. If you had been there on the right day and you had bought the distinguished British paper The Times, out of the first hand you could have read an extensive musicological article devoted to the Beatles. This early assessment was full of praise for their musical accomplishments, but also phrased in a kind of learned musicological language that contrasted sharply with the self-concept of the rising youth culture. Read the next quote to know what the author heard in songs, most young people in those days just danced or sat down to listen to.

"Their noisy items are the ones that arouse teenagers' excitement. Glutinous crooning is generally out of fashion these days, and even a song about "Misery" sounds fundamentally quite cheerful; the slow, sad song about "That Boy", which figures prominently in Beatle programmes, is expressively unusual for its lugubrious music, but harmonically it is one of their most intriguing, with its chains of pan-diatonic clusters, and the sentiment is acceptable because voiced cleanly and crisply. But harmonic interest is typical of their quicker songs too, and one gets the impression that they think simultaneously of harmony and melody, so firmly are the major tonic sevenths and ninths built into their tunes, and the flat submediant key switches, so natural is the Aeolian cadence at the end of "Not a Second Time" (the chord progression which ends Mahler's "Song of the Earth")."

From our Music Critic. "Chains of pan-diatonic clusters", "major tonic sevenths and ninths" and "Aeolian cadences", all these qualifications seem to be far removed from the daily experiences and expressive motives of the buyers of the early Beatles' records. Though the article was regarded as a kind of official recognition of popular music, many people — including the Beatles themselves — made fun of it. John Lennon himself mockingly said, he thought Aeolian cadences to be some kind of "exotic birds". The piece was neutrally signed "From our Music Critic", but is commonly ascribed to William Mann, the regular music critic of the London paper at that time. But whoever wrote the commentary, he was not the last serious musicologist trying to get hold of the musical peculiarities of the Beatles' songs. As rock music was to become a major cultural force, others were to follow.”

This is the source of the above information:

As Yes fans, the final line in that piece “As rock music was to become a major cultural force, others were to follow.” is of profound importance. Listen carefully to The Beatles songs of 1965/6/7 and then the first Yes album, to see how vital The Beatles were, not only to Yes, but the whole progressive rock movement that was to follow. The Howard Goodall series is fascinating viewing for all and especially, Yes fans. Thanks to Chris for the heads up on this and for everyone else here, check the link to the first part and you'll find another five parts there.

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Re: The Beatles

Postby Chris2210 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:37 pm

Fabulous post Richard. I'd also like to thank you for finding that link to the Goodall. I've started watching again (what a fabulous resource YouTube is). I'd recommend anyone to give them a look. Great stuff.
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