Where does Jon rank?



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Where does Jon rank?

Postby every1is1 » Wed Nov 06, 2002 10:50 pm

You've gotta love Plant's voice in classic lead: jagged and totally on the edge. Waters had amazing flexibility and personality in Floyd; reaching amazing highs, calling on scary tones, bordering on insanity at times as well as heartfelt compassion with his singing.

Those are a couple of my favorite all-time rock singers. Jon is definitely in my top 3. He has great rhythm, emotion, and range.

Who are some of your favorite singers and where does Jon rank IYHO?
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Postby tribute1969 » Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:17 pm

JON is "THE MAN" with a trademark sound that has stayed true and strong for over 3 decades! I also enjoy the other extreme in vocals such as Johnny Winter, Jim Dandy of Black Oak, Ian Anderson of Tull, Joe Cocker from Mad Dogs days, Leon Russell, Jack Bruce,Ian Gillan of Deep Purple and of course JIMI.
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Postby Wolf359 » Thu Nov 07, 2002 6:19 am

Jon is number One in my book. And it's a bias I can live with. A close second is Peter Gabriel, both with Genesis and solo - <u>The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway</u> and <u>So</u> being amongst my favorites. Ian Anderson of J.Tull - <u>Thick as a Brick</u> and <u>Passion Play</u> are fine examples of his breadth. And finally, and oddly enough, Greg Lake. Not so much from ELP days, but the amazing vocals on King Crimson's <u>In the Court of the Crimson King</u> - from the fingernails on the blackboard sound of "21st Century Schizoid Man" to the title track he shows amazing range. But top dog is (and always will be) Jon. Just listen to "Gates."
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Postby HeartOfTheSunrise » Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:05 am

jon anderson of course is my favorite of all time

as far as great and distinctive voices that meant something to me in my life for a long time besides Jon Anderson?

well, i go with Lennon, Plant, Daltry,
on a different plane, i think Brian Ferry has an excellent voice

there are so many out there, but if i didn't think of them in a flash, they are not at the top of the list for me
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Postby qman » Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:01 pm

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Postby perpetualchanger » Thu Nov 07, 2002 6:03 pm

Jon, Peter Gabriel. In that order. Everyone else ranks in comparison to them or is simply not in their league.

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Postby fragilesi » Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:54 pm

Jon is my top man and (no surprises) I've grown to think Geddy Lee has an incredible voice.

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Postby Roan's Lady » Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:09 am

<b>Top Five Guys:</b>
Jon Anderson <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Patrik Lundstrom <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> (He's from an excellent Swedish prog band called Ritual)
Robert Plant <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Peter Gabriel <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Eddie Vedder <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> (This guy knows how to let loose; he's a heartthrob)

<b>Top Five Gals:</b>
Annie Haslam <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Joni Mitchell <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby every1is1 » Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:58 am

I like your rating method, Roans.<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I agree with the mentions of Peter Gabriel. Now, I know a lot of members here look down upon Phil Collins because he came in and spoiled your party for Genesis. However, I still think Phil had a great voice and was a good writer, maybe not as progressive, but heartfelt nonetheless.

In any event, I'd like to add to my Roger Waters mention above. I'm surprised others have not agreed. His versatility, IMHO, is unmatched. Look at The Wall for instance. If one who had never heard of Pink Floyd before, was to listen to this album, they just might think there were several singers. At times, like in Mother, Goodbye Blue Sky, and Hey You, his voice is calm, peaceful, melodic, even reaching beautiful tones. At other times, such as in Young Lust, Another Brick in the Wall II, and Run Like Hell, his voice rocks. Then, he morphs into another character: dark, eerie, even scary, such as in Empty Spaces, Don't Leave Me Now, The Thin Ice, and In the Flesh. Finally, near the end of the album, once you think he's pulled out all the stops, he goes crazy, psychotic, and takes on a looney character that he even sings about such as in Waiting for the Worms and The Trial. Wow! what creativity and emotion.

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Stevie Nicks <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Linda Ronstadt <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Ann Wilson (Heart) <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Sinead OConnor <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edie Brickell <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Some other favorite male singers:
Rod Stewart <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Love the hoarse voice.
Joe Cocker <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Same as above.
Bono <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Was particularly great on the first 3-4 albums.
Steve Perry <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby guilddigger » Fri Nov 08, 2002 5:28 pm

<font face='Comic Sans MS'>there were several singers in pink floyd. well, at least two, gilmour did his fair share of lead vocals too. often did they take over from one another. like 'dogs' on 'animals', gilmour sings the first parts and in the last verse waters take over. in 'mother' gilmour sings the choruses and i think he's the one singing 'young lust'. 'hey you' is also gilmour. i think he sings most parts on dark side...'as well. gilmour's got a very good voice come to think of it.</font id='Comic Sans MS'>

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Postby every1is1 » Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:14 pm

Fascinating guilddigger. I knew Gilmour sang various songs and parts, but have yet to see any difinitive information on the matter. I suppose Gilmour being the vocalist/part vocalist on some of those songs would take away from Waters' versatility. Curious.
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Postby N2yes » Sat Nov 09, 2002 12:09 am

<font color=red><font face='Papyrus'>Yep, One, that's Gilmour doing the majority of singing. Waters voice is no where near as good as Gilmour's ( I love listening to "Learning to Fly" off of <i>A MOMENTARY LAPSE of REASON</i> ).

Jon has nearly always been my favorite as well. There are, however, a few that come close.

1. Jon Anderson<img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
2. Justin Hayward<img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
3. Geddy Lee <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
4. Steve Winwood<img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>
5. Robert Plant <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

*Honorable mention: Jack Bruce

and now for the gals....

1. Ann Wilson <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
2. Annie Lennox <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
3. Annie Haslam <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
4. Bonnie Raitt <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
5. Natalie Merchant <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby guilddigger » Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:57 am

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<b>N2yes wrote:</b>
[red]<font face='Papyrus'>Yep, One, that's Gilmour doing the majority of singing. Waters voice is no where near as good as Gilmour's <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
<font face='Comic Sans MS'>you can tell who's singing in that gilmour's voice is softer and a bit hoarse. water's voice has an edge to it and
sometimes sounds a bit whiny in a nasal way.</font id='Comic Sans MS'>

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Postby OB1kenOB » Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:34 am

my favorite 5 male singers

Jon Anderson
Chris Squire
Jim Morrison
Martin Gore
Michael Hutchence


hmm favorite female singers

Diana Krall
Julie London
Carly Simon
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Postby every1is1 » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:44 pm

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<b>N2yes wrote:</b>
[red]<font face='Papyrus'>Yep, One, that's Gilmour doing the majority of singing. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Hold on, now. I'm not buying that one. I'll concede Gilmour is joining in on occasion, but this "majority" idea is a little extreme for me.

btw, I agree with your mention of Justin Hayward. I'm a big Moody fan. Seen them several times and he's still quite the vocalist.
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Postby every1is1 » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:47 pm

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<b>OB1kenOB wrote:</b>
Martin Gore
Michael Hutchence<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Definitely! Gore is an excellent vocalist and an outstanding songwriter. Saw them in concert last year. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Seriously!

I, too, love(d) Hutchence. They have a look/soundalike now. I do hope they keep touring. The band is still tight and the sound still good. Michael was indeed the bomb.
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Postby guilddigger » Sat Nov 09, 2002 9:08 pm

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<b>every1is1 wrote:</b>
Hold on, now. I'm not buying that one. I'll concede Gilmour is joining in on occasion, but this "majority" idea is a little extreme for me.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
<font face='Comic Sans MS'>sorry to crack your illusions. <img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
if you get hold of gilmour's solo albums you'll hear a voice that won't sound too unfamiliar on floyd albums.
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Postby N2yes » Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:58 am

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<b>every1is1 wrote:</b>

Hold on, now. I'm not buying that one. I'll concede Gilmour is joining in on occasion, but this "majority" idea is a little extreme for me.
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<font color=red><font face='Papyrus'>My dear, you do not have to buy it as I'm not offering it as a sale item.<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

However, the fact remains, Gilmour and Waters did not have an equal share in the lead vocal role. Waters, being an original member possessed with God-like self-perceptions, argued incessantly with Gilmour whom he figured was slowly endeavoring to take over 'his' band. Assuming the lead vocal position was but one of many complaints he had against his more talented comrade. Mason and Wright ( who returned after Waters fired him ), proved their allegiances. Waters simply couldn't handle the blow to his ego for sharing center stage or even being bested was beyond his fathoming. Then of course, there came the legal battle over who had rights to the name but that's another even longer story!<img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_bong.gif border=0 align=middle></font id=red></font id='Papyrus'>

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Postby OB1kenOB » Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:07 am

I just have to comment that I'm glad I didn't see
Janis Joplin show up on someone's list of favorite
female vocalists
from what I've seen and heard she hardly rates as either

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Postby Ed1909 » Sun Nov 10, 2002 7:12 am

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<b>OB1kenOB wrote:</b>
I just have to comment that I'm glad I didn't see
Janis Joplin show up on someone's list of favorite
female vocalists
from what I've seen and heard she hardly rates as either

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LOL - I see where you're coming from! And of course Janis never had anything approaching 'purity' or 'beauty' in her voice.

However, I'd put her in my top five because she had so much passion and soul. Everything she sung -she fuckin meant it! She felt it. Ever seen the Monterey Pop film when she does "Ball And Chain"? THAT is so bloody awesome to hear and see.


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Postby Jon Flanagan » Sun Nov 10, 2002 1:18 pm

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I like your rating method, Roans.<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I agree with the mentions of Peter Gabriel. Now, I know a lot of members here look down upon Phil Collins because he came in and spoiled your party for Genesis. However, I still think Phil had a great voice and was a good writer, maybe not as progressive, but heartfelt nonetheless.

In any event, I'd like to add to my Roger Waters mention above. I'm surprised others have not agreed. His versatility, IMHO, is unmatched. Look at The Wall for instance. If one who had never heard of Pink Floyd before, was to listen to this album, they just might think there were several singers. At times, like in Mother, Goodbye Blue Sky, and Hey You, his voice is calm, peaceful, melodic, even reaching beautiful tones. At other times, such as in Young Lust, Another Brick in the Wall II, and Run Like Hell, his voice rocks. Then, he morphs into another character: dark, eerie, even scary, such as in Empty Spaces, Don't Leave Me Now, The Thin Ice, and In the Flesh. Finally, near the end of the album, once you think he's pulled out all the stops, he goes crazy, psychotic, and takes on a looney character that he even sings about such as in Waiting for the Worms and The Trial. Wow! what creativity and emotion.

As far as favorite female artists:

Stevie Nicks <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Linda Ronstadt <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Ann Wilson (Heart) <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Sinead OConnor <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edie Brickell <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Some other favorite male singers:
Rod Stewart <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Love the hoarse voice.
Joe Cocker <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Same as above.
Bono <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Was particularly great on the first 3-4 albums.
Steve Perry <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Roger Waters was never a great singer, and he would be the first to tell you that, but his paranoid shrill suited the music, especially the wall quite well; Every1is1, you obviously own Dark side of the Moon, and you may not be aware of this but Waters only sang lead on the final two tracks " Brain Damage" and " Eclipes," with Gilmour contributing the lion's share of the leads, because quite simply, he is a superior vocalist...and Rick Wright contributes a lead vocal on " Time" during the verses; And to further bolster this, listen to any Waters era live recordings and you'll see that he has a lot of trouble with pitch and phrasing, wich necessitated Dave chipping in with some support harmony. And as for Disney Phil, we don't critisize his musical talent...he is still a powerhouse drummer and fine vocalist...it's when he slams the very music he was a part of, and kisses the Punk movement's ass in acknowledging that bands like Genesis and Yes were overblown, pretentious farts...that's right folks, good ol' Phil actually puts down Yes in a recent documentary...this coming from a pinhead who makes his money writing music for a fucking cartoon! Oh, enough of me bitching, here's my fav's of the vox:

1.) Freddie Mercury-Positively the best frontman rock will ever see, and possesor of a voice that's still my favorite...and a wonderful songwriter and pianist
2.) Greg Lake-When he was younger, this fabulous musician had an angelic voice that sent shivers down my spine!
3.) Jon Anderson-Probably the only singer of a seminal rock band dating back to the late sixties that really hasn't lost any range on his voice, as he continues to be a wonderment to behold...lot's of energy and enthusiasm for a man his age.
4.)Frank Sinatra-this man could sing anything and make it sound substantial, no matter what the material and how many musicians he had playing with him...an icon of the likes you'll never see again...and one Jon's biggest influences!
5.)Paul Rogers-Terribly underrated singer who is still at the top of his game voice-wise...terrific voice!
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Postby jaynote1 » Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:21 pm

I always liked the singers in Gentle Giant, and I would have to include Ian Anderson in a list...
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Postby guilddigger » Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:41 pm

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Everything she sung -she fuckin meant it...
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<font face='Comic Sans MS'>i'd rather hear a 'non singer' who tells a story that comes from the heart, than someone with a 'perfect voice' who's got nothing to say. imo janis was a great.



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Postby every1is1 » Mon Nov 11, 2002 1:39 am

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<b>Jon Flanagan wrote:</b>Roger Waters was never a great singer, and he would be the first to tell you that, but his paranoid shrill suited the music, especially the wall quite well; Every1is1, you obviously own Dark side of the Moon, and you may not be aware of this but Waters only sang lead on the final two tracks " Brain Damage" and " Eclipes," with Gilmour contributing the lion's share of the leads, because quite simply, he is a superior vocalist...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Well, I'd like to believe that this is all a matter of opinion, and in mine, Waters was a great singer. In fact, I like his style better than Gilmour's.
Also, I find it fascinating how you command the power of being able to speak for others. Maybe Waters did think of himself as a great singer. Afterall, it's a common opinion the man was nothing but full of himself. So, perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to speak on behalf of others. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong and you've actually had this conversation with him and he would tell me he wasn't a great singer. But, I do no you can't speak on my behalf. I don't own Dark Side of the Moon.

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This is what I would say about Waters. His singing struck me as being from the heart, so emotionally stressful.

I can say I've learned a great deal from this discussion, which was never intended to be centered around Waters, however life seems to take its own turns, so here we are.

While I admire Waters as a singer and songwriter, I'd like to finish this seg of the rap here by saying Jon Anderson takes the cake between the two.
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Postby guilddigger » Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:02 am

<font face='Comic Sans MS'>no one (at least not i) was dissing waters in any way. simply stating who sang what on floyd albums. yes it's a matter of opinion, who's got the better voice. to each his own, right?
waters sang the songs that suited or needed his voice and gilmour on the songs that only he could do justice. and let's not forget, richard wright did some incredibly good vocals too.


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Postby jackalz » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:04 pm

My current big four are Jon, Peter Gabriel (though I haven't purchased Up, yet), Joni Mitchell and Alanis Morrissette. The emotion in their vocals and lyrics take me to the heights. There are too many honorable mentions to mention any more.
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Postby YesJo » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:24 pm

For me, Jon is my number 1, no surprise there. I also like Frank Sinatra alot lately, John Mellencamp, Peter Gabriel, Geddy Lee, and Van Morrison.

Women: Annie Haslam, Sade', Natatlie Merchant, Stevie Nicks, and I love Janis Joplin, I love her emotion and her passion!!!
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Postby bundy » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:16 pm

He is definitely ranks as one of the alltime great vocalists.
IMHO he sits comfortably alongside Robert Plant, Greg Lake, Fish,
Geddy Lee and Freddie Mercury. However, I've only ever heard 2 albums
where I have simply listened in astonishment to the vocalists. Both of these albums still blow my mind every time I listen to them and i
I have played each of them hundreds of times. And the albums and vocalists are.....drumroll David Surkamp on Pavlovs Dog - Pampered Menial (one of my 5 desert island albums) Hagen Schmidt Payne's Gray - Kadath Decoded (a brilliant prog metal album if you're into that kind of thing)
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Postby Sam » Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:07 pm

Jon is a great vocalist. I also happen to think that Chris' contributions are extremely important to making Yes' signature sound, and Jon without Chris is not as good vocally (ABWH, for instance).

My personal favorites are Steve Walsh and Peter Gabriel. Both of these guys put tons of passion into their performances.
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Postby guilddigger » Tue Nov 12, 2002 11:32 pm

<font face='Comic Sans MS'>not sure i can rank them. i like different singers for different reasons.
jon, of course, is way up there.
then,
neil young for his honesty.
john mellencamp for his sincerity.
muddy waters for his intensity.
bob dylan for his 'narrativity'. (hey, i made up a new word)
tom petty for his simplicity.
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