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The ongoing YES Marketing Disaster



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Postby yeskat » Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:28 am

Khatru,
I think you may have a very good point there! I've always wondered if Yes is just "too nice" or "too spiritual" for the masses who seem to have their minds in the gutters! <img src=pix/icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Yes soars ABOVE them...
However, my optimistic side keeps hoping that some may AWAKEN and partake of the beauty that is <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>!
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Postby Khatru » Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:39 am

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However, my optimistic side keeps hoping that some may AWAKEN and partake of the beauty that is <img src=pix/icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>!
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Well, that would be the ideal, and I trust that we are ultimately headed in that direction. I know that every one that I've turned on to YES is better off for it on a spirit level, so, I'll continue that persuit. If they're not ready, then maybe someday they will be. Peace bro'
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Postby Chris2210 » Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:10 pm

Well I am high on the new album at the moment so maybe I'm being overly optimistic but... The material is in my opinion so strong that some sort of buzz will start to build after the album starts getting positive reviews from the music press over here in the UK.

By the time it's eventually released in the States that might actually translate into some media attention (and of course albumn sales) and hopefully halt the downward spiral into obscurity our heroes have been facing for a while.
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Postby relayer4u » Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:37 pm

The most reasonable explanation why Europe has Magnification now, and we don't, is that Yes is planning to alter their set list to include more of the new songs on the European tour. If I had to venture a guess, I would say that Starship Trooper and Gates of Delirium would be the songs that get replaced, or Perpetual Change. I don't think the band would discard CTTE as the opener and Ritual is too powerful to give up also. I hope I'm wrong, but the December US release would work out nicely for the 2nd US leg, playing the modified set list. <img src=pix/icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby Chris2210 » Tue Sep 11, 2001 9:52 pm

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The most reasonable explanation why Europe has Magnification now, and we don't, is that Yes is planning to alter their set list to include more of the new songs on the European tour. If I had to venture a guess, I would say that Starship Trooper and Gates of Delirium would be the songs that get replaced, or Perpetual Change. I don't think the band would discard CTTE as the opener and Ritual is too powerful to give up also. I hope I'm wrong, but the December US release would work out nicely for the 2nd US leg, playing the modified set list. <img src=pix/icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>
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I'd love to hear more of the new album live, but please god, DON'T LET THEM DROP GATES!!! I would have a nervous breakdown, I've never seen it live.
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Postby frankh » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:20 am

How wonderful was the reading in this thread.How sad to see the discourse, which I am able to assure one and all with an at least reasonable sense of certainty that I will not be able to elevate, cease on the day which it did...

So many things have changed since the last post.

Some things have not changed.

My take, and a few had touched upon it here.There really is only one sure fire method to taking Yes to ears which haven't heard, or are unwilling to do so.We must do it.

Previous commercial success by Yes was almost an accidental thing, created by forces which no longer exist in the musical marketplace.This was correctly diagnosed by above posters...from what are now so many years ago...

Accidental, but wonderful.The seventies were such a different time!There were real musicians attaining success with real music the likes of which have seldom been seen since.At the time, remember the musical landscape was even then being described as barren.How well have we since learned the wisdom in the words "you don't know what you got 'til it's gone"?

Even the mixed blessing of the 80's and Owner came as a total surprise to fans of the band.Was there an element of calculation in that success?Sure, probably.However, what it did was allow Yes to continue to the present.

Is there any possibility of further success in the market for Yes?

Yes, but highly unlikely, at least through any means that we are aware of at this time as being conventional.

Yes always were about the unlikely!

The best way to go about it is to declare ourselves, as many if not all of us are doing, have always done, to be on a mission.We are on a mission to make sure there will be no forgetting.Anyone who seems a likely candidate for Yesmusic who has not heard them or has dismissed them out of hand, MUST hear them!

The radio stations won't play them?We could "serial request"!

The record stores won't stock adequately?We must send Yesmusic out into the very air ourselves, and do it often!

We have to rededicate ourselves to this task!Work harder at it and on it than ever before!

Our world requires Yesmusic!Now more than ever!

I have always "turned people on" to Yesmusic.Today, I vow to start to do so with a renewed vigor.

Please join me!Together, we can do this!
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Postby joshtheyesfan » Tue May 30, 2006 7:28 pm

[font="Impact"]i get up, i get down[/font] [:yes]
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Postby fragilesi » Tue May 30, 2006 8:46 pm

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Postby joshtheyesfan » Wed May 31, 2006 12:36 am

[font="Impact"]i get up, i get down[/font] [:yes]
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Postby fragilesi » Wed May 31, 2006 12:09 pm

Josh, only one answer to your question . . . YES!

Dream on . . .
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Postby joshtheyesfan » Wed May 31, 2006 8:41 pm

[font="Impact"]i get up, i get down[/font] [:yes]
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Postby Thoughtbecontact » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:21 am

AWAKEN/GENTLE/MASS/TOUCH
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Postby Chris2210 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:53 pm

That's a good point about the Beach Boys. I always quite liked them, even through the seventies when they were very uncool and seemingly dead, but didn't know much more than the well-known hits (from a compilation my brother owned).

I really got very into them only a few years ago and my joy was sealed when Wilson finally realised the masterpiece Smile. I hadn't been waiting for it anywhere near as long as the band's long-term fans, but I was blown away by how fantastic a work that is.

Wilson's reputation has very slowly built (from his time in obscurity)- I don't think that has translated into the gigantic commercial success he deserves (I personally think Smile is a record every self-respecting muso should have in their collection). The acknowledgement of his musical genius does seem now to be firmly assured. I'd like to think the same could happen for the Anderson/Howe/Yes collective - the work deserves to endure. Only time will tell.
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Postby Chris2210 » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:10 pm

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