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Open Your Eyes

Postby Bill » Fri Jan 11, 2002 11:07 am

I just came across a post from someone who loves the song "Time is Time", and can't understand why so many do not like it.

Along the same lines, is there anybody out there who really likes "Open Your Eyes"? I love this album--especially "New State of Mind", "Fortune Seller", and "No Way We Can Lose"--and I have never understood why it is so reviled. I think the only song that I really don't care for that much is "Wonderlove", but even then, I would not rank it in my black book of unloved Yes songs.

Anyone else feel as I do, or am I just nuts? On second thought, don't answer the second part of that question ;-)

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Postby DTArtstar » Fri Jan 11, 2002 12:42 pm

This album took me a hell of a long time to like but I really do find a lot of good moments in it. I love New State Of Mind, Open Your Eyes, Universal Garden, No Way We Can Lose, Man In The Moon(yes, even this one), Wonderlove, and From The Balcony. I don't really like the others and I don't think the last 3 songs are really that good either. The Solution is pretty cool but it takes too long for me to enjoy the small cool parts. Overall, I find myself listening to many other Yes albums before this one, but I still do really like it
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Postby fragilesi » Fri Jan 11, 2002 5:23 pm

I tend to be more forgiving of the guys' output than a lot of people. I enjoy listening to Open your Eyes when I do but have to admit it's not that often I do. It's one of my "least favourite" albums but I also think that there's some good stuff on there. I also thought that "From The Balcony" was great live on the tour especially when they were accompanied at Hammersmith.

It's not a Close to the Edge, Relayer or Tales but if you can see your way past that you can spend happy times with this one for sure.

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Postby Dr_Yes » Sat Jan 12, 2002 1:09 am

This was the album that came out when my girlfriend Karen (now wife) and I got together, so it obviously holds a special position (aaah!) - no seriously. Luckily I also like a lot of the music, particularly the title track, which didn't come across well live IMO, and the ambient hidden bonus track at the end as it reminds me of seeing them three times on that tour.
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Postby fragilesi » Sat Jan 12, 2002 3:37 am

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Luckily I also like a lot of the music, particularly the title track, which didn't come across well live IMO,
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Yep, I'd second that, which surprised me because when I heard it on the album I thought that it would be a really good live track . . .

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Postby Altair » Sat Jan 12, 2002 2:58 pm

<font color=green>Count me in, Bill. I love this album. Haven't listened to it in a while, but sure lent my ear a great many times. My OYE faves include OYE, Universal Garden which takes a serious ear, Man in the Moon, and I love the last 3 tracks. Fascinating, it's all about perspective, and my perspective is the truth. Not that yours isn't.</font id=green><img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bill, I must be crazy also. I've seen this album slaughtered, trashed, ripped, and dissed so many times that it really ruffles my feathers.

Man in the Moon is such a killer tune...so many layers and hidden guitar work. What's so wrong with this tune folks?
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Postby Altair » Sat Jan 12, 2002 3:00 pm

Wait a second. I know what it is...it's the cover. That's right, the cover sucks. That's what it is. Spare me.

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Postby rickgraeff » Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:21 am

Hey Bud-
I tried to like OYE but found it impossible. The production was really bad, and the songs were just annoying. I kinda liked Universal Gardewn and New State of Mind, but I never listen to them anymore.
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Postby Kevan James » Fri Jan 18, 2002 8:59 pm

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<b>Bill wrote:</b>
Along the same lines, is there anybody out there who really likes "Open Your Eyes"? ;-)

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Having read these comments recently, I thought I'd re-listen to OYE, which I did on the way to work this morning.

My conclusion is that this album should get more recognition - the vocal harmonies are excellent (particularly on the title track) and the guitar playing is first class ('Fortune Seller' probably being the best example). Obviously this album does not rate up there with classics like 'Close to the Edge' and 'Relayer', but it is, to my ears, better than some of the material produced during the Trevor Rabin era.

Listening to this makes me wonder what '90125' would have been like if Steve Howe had been the guitarist rather than Rabin. Before anyone tells me, I know that this album wouldn't have been anything like this, but try and imagine that line up of songs with Steve playing ..... makes you think!
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Postby Yeswhole » Sat Jan 19, 2002 1:14 pm

I think "Time is Time" is great. Too bad it is only 2 minutes long, as I have to listen to it about 6 times in a row, to keep that good feeling going provided by the tune.

I also like OYE. Although it is neither in the mold of the 70's or 80's Yes. I often skip the first two songs and listen to the balance of the CD when in an "easy listening" mood. I listen to the 70's albums probably about 20 times more often than OYE. I also like it better than the 80's Yes (save Drama). The lyrics are very positive.
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Postby perpetualchanger » Sun Jan 20, 2002 6:18 pm

I bought OYE about a month ago and haven't even listened to it yet. But I'll get around to it someday. I just now this week got around to catching up with The Ladder.

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Postby Kevan James » Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:35 pm

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<b>Yeswhole wrote:</b>
I think "Time is Time" is great. Too bad it is only 2 minutes long, as I have to listen to it about 6 times in a row, to keep that good feeling going provided by the tune.


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'Time is Time'?? Why don't I know this track? What album is it on?
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Postby Kevan James » Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:44 pm

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<b>Kevan James wrote:</b>
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<b>Yeswhole wrote:</b>
I think "Time is Time" is great. Too bad it is only 2 minutes long, as I have to listen to it about 6 times in a row, to keep that good feeling going provided by the tune.


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'Time is Time'?? Why don't I know this track? What album is it on?
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Forget this - what am I thinking of? I'm not having a good day!!!
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Postby perpetualchanger » Tue Jan 22, 2002 4:22 am

It's all right, Kevan, "Heart of the Sunrise" is one of my favorite songs and last night I said my favorite line from it was in "Close to the Edge" instead. OOPS. Don't worry, you're not the only one!

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Postby MOONWEED » Wed Jan 23, 2002 9:11 am

I'M NOT THE BIGGEST FAN OF OYE BUT I ABSOLUTLY LOVE MAN ON THE MOON,GO FIGURE.
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Postby yeskat » Thu Jan 24, 2002 2:07 pm

The first time I listened to OYE I wasn't impressed; but I thought the instrumentals and vocals were good. Then after hearing it a few times, it started to grow on me. New State of Mind, OYE, Fortune Seller and The Solution became favorites. Then after a while I actually fell in love with Man in the Moon. My husband thinks I'm crazy (there's hardly a YES song he doesn't like, but this one he can't understand) but it is a favorite of mine now!

After a while, I started to really enjoy the entire album. Wonderlove is a least favorite, but I can tolerate it. Even it has some redeeming quality to it. The entire album is yet another of YES's explorations; quite different from anything they've done. I always admire them for their guts to try something different. The harmonies are jazzy (for lack of a better word), and I agree there's a lot more to this album than it receives credit for. <img src=pix/luv1.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby perpetualchanger » Fri Feb 22, 2002 4:42 am

I finally got around to listening to OYE and I'm actually quite impressed with Man in the Moon. I think it's probably my favorite on this album. I love how the lower vocal is pretty straight but there's an echo on the high part so it has that otherworldly quality to it, like Jon's actually singing from the moon or something. (Perhaps he has been all these years!) And the string-sounding keyboard filler is way cool.

New State of Mind - man, am I impressed with the vocals on this! The harmonies are incredibly tight.

I'm not all that impressed with Wonderlove, but chez nous it's not!

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Postby Bill » Fri Feb 22, 2002 11:03 pm

Hey, Perpetual! You are 7 away from 500 posts! We need to throw a party or something!<img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby perpetualchanger » Sat Feb 23, 2002 8:00 am

I'm up for a party! Didn't take me long to get close to 500, did it? <img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>



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Postby Dantalion » Sat Mar 02, 2002 1:04 am

I'm lucky to have a job where I spend a lot of time travelling around in my car. OYE is the perfect album for in-car listening. Get that CD in your car - or tape it and get that tape in your car.
Maybe because the songs on OYE are shorter than other Yes songs, we expect them to be simple. In fact they're pretty complex and need repeated listening. Get it in your car!
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

OYE is great, especially Someday, Somehow. It has its own sound, particularly on "Wonderlove". This song was one that I took ages to get into, but now I really love its feel.
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Postby perpetualchanger » Sat Mar 02, 2002 7:30 am

Hubby and I went somewhere last week in his truck, which has a much better sound system than my car (gotta do something about that).

I put OYE in the CD player and when the vocals began on "New State of Mind" he immediately said "that's Yes" - like anyone would ever have a doubt.

When it got to "Man In The Moon he said, "Is that the same CD? It sounds so 1985." <img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

It's not my favorite Yes of all time but I have to agree with Dantalion, it makes for really good driving music - especially when you're crossing a big river and the moon is hitting the water as "Man In The Moon" is playing. That was very cool.

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Postby NineLives » Sat Mar 02, 2002 9:11 am



I like OYE....it's "OK,".....but "Ladder" and "Magnification" blow it away bad! IMHO, that is!

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Postby N2yes » Sun Mar 03, 2002 1:35 am

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<b>NineLives wrote:</b>


I like OYE....it's "OK,".....but "Ladder" and "Magnification" blow it away bad! IMHO, that is!


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<font color=red>I'll second that motion...especially "The Ladder"!!!!!!</font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby psychopomp95 » Sun Mar 03, 2002 2:36 pm

I'm listening to MP3s of Open Your Eyes right now, for the first time! And I really like it! Obviously you're not gonna listen to this and get a humongous amount of 'musical meat' out of it like with the 70's stuff, but I in NO way think it's embarrassing for the band as some people say! Even "Man in the Moon" is pretty good (and lyrically I've heard FAR cheesier stuff, from Yes or other bands)!
Steve in particular plays some VERY good lead guitar here... who'd have thought he works so well in a pop mode?! (And yes it IS him, not Billy, unless Billy can imitate him even better than Jimmy Haun!)
I forget which song exactly (one of the first four or five I'm sure), but I was listening to it and was extremely pleasantly surprised at the restraint he showed! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> And actually "Somehow Someday" just ended with an excellent solo by him as well! And the harmonies are very nice too.
I'm gonna listen to this again soon! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby Jon Flanagan » Tue Mar 12, 2002 7:33 am

The "Open Your Eyes" album was not an organically concieved album. It was going to be Chris Squires' new solo album which had a working title of " Chemistry." I can't imagine anyone with decent musical tastes actually listening to this abortion and enjoying it...utterly forgettable, like ELP's Love Beach...garbage!
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Postby Ed1909 » Tue Mar 12, 2002 7:36 am

Hehe! You don't mince your words Jon!!! Welcome aboard the best Yes fan site there is!

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Postby Bill » Tue Mar 12, 2002 9:33 am

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<b>Jon Flanagan wrote:</b>
The "Open Your Eyes" album was not an organically concieved album. It was going to be Chris Squires' new solo album which had a working title of " Chemistry." I can't imagine anyone with decent musical tastes actually listening to this abortion and enjoying it...utterly forgettable, like ELP's Love Beach...garbage!
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Well, I think I have pretty good musical taste and I like it. SO THERE! There is nothing wrong with disliking something; I agree with your other post on a lot of KTA, but we are all family here. Let's keep it respectful.

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Postby yeskat » Tue Mar 12, 2002 4:14 pm

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<b>Jon Flanagan wrote:</b>
The "Open Your Eyes" album was not an organically concieved album. It was going to be Chris Squires' new solo album which had a working title of " Chemistry." I can't imagine anyone with decent musical tastes actually listening to this abortion and enjoying it...utterly forgettable, like ELP's Love Beach...garbage!
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<b>Jon Flanagan wrote:</b>
The "Open Your Eyes" album was not an organically concieved album. It was going to be Chris Squires' new solo album which had a working title of " Chemistry." I can't imagine anyone with decent musical tastes actually listening to this abortion and enjoying it...utterly forgettable, like ELP's Love Beach...garbage!
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Perhaps "Open Your Mind" might have been a better title<img src=pix/icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Dr_Yes » Tue Mar 12, 2002 10:01 pm

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<b>Jon Flanagan wrote:</b>
I can't imagine anyone with decent musical tastes actually listening to this abortion and enjoying it...utterly forgettable, like ELP's Love Beach...garbage!
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Jon, you don't happen to write musical reviews for 'Q' magazine do you? There's a similarlity between the balanced tone and objective reasoning that seems familiar that's all.

I always like to welcome new people and new fans to YEStalk and by all means voice your opinions, but please - if you can - try to temper your language to show respect to the views of others in the process. Funnily enough it seems a quicker way to make friends and STILL get your opinion across.
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