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Does The Ladder really suck?



Does The Ladder really suck?

Postby Greenglade » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:37 am

Maybe it's Talk or Ladder for my next purchase or ...90125 and BG, alternates if Best Buy or Tower or Borders doesn't have the former.

OYE sort of sucks. Onion as two good songs--Got that determined.

Isn't "Holy Lamb" that really powerful building serious emotional song?

I guess Talk must have at least 75% good stuff on it. Not too many chick-flick type songs, but sensitive.

Whatever, got a month to decide.
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Postby jackalz » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:17 am

I think your best bet is to go into any choice you make without expectations or maybe even with low expectations. It is all OK (doesn't suck) IMO. But there will be an adjustment period to get used to the unique sound. I've learned to love just about every song on every album by excepting it for what it is. They didn't want to remake the same songs, so they experiment a lot. It takes a while to get it, but once I did get it, I was able to listen over and over with the same ecstatic smile on my face to all these releases. But not at first.

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Postby Jon Flanagan » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:16 pm

No it doesn't suck...it just has a highly inflated reputation...very overrated. This album begins with a bang...and I mean a BANG...and then goes flaccid for about four songs until " Finally," meanders again, and ends in gentle beauty with " nine Voices." Yes, as they do now, needed a producer to weed out the garbage and make it more concise and to the point, and with Bruce Fairbain, they were able to accomplish that...albeit briefly; It's a shame he died, as I think a more nutured relationship with the band, along with Rick Wakeman and better material, could have resulted in a more cohesive effort. For all my knocks on Billy Sherwood, I think he really came up with some great stuff, as did Igor...fresh blood can help...though it does have Alan White's worst drumming on a Yes album...plods along, and his sound is so compressed...ugggghhh...c'mon Alan...let's get the mojo going again!
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Postby N2yes » Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:08 am

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Postby Chris2210 » Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:47 am

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Postby Vaguson » Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:09 pm

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In Defense of Climbing ( [i]THE LADDER[/i])

Postby N2yes » Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:12 pm

I can see where one could confuse the positive sounds of THE LADDER with an attempt at commercialism. However, I don't think this is what they were after at all. For me, THE LADDER, with Steve back in full force and with Fairbairn at the production helm, there was a musical statement to be made. I hear echoes of the past in this record and there is also a full-force drive to erase the banal aspects that much of OYE regrettably possessed. High energy and a fresh approach, a successful combination in my book.
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Postby Fishes » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:36 pm

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Postby Greenglade's Frog » Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:41 pm

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Postby Relayer » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:36 pm

I like CD Universe myself, they seem to have most every disc I want in stock,
you can always check you're order status at any time, and cancel stuff if you find it before it is shipped, disc's that are on backordered sometimes take a month or so to fill, but that's typical of small run, hard to find disc's.
The Ladder doesn't suck, it is much better,IMHO, than OYE, Talk is my favorite, but that usually doesn't appeal to those who dislike Trevor Rabin,
both disc's have strong songs, some better than others, but neither disc disappoints me,just an opinion. same goes for 90125 and BG.
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Postby Yessong » Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:45 pm

I'll take ladder over OYE, or, for that matter, "Talk" which I have never liked - I listen to it once a year and everytime I dislike it more - sorry - Ladder is definately the way to go.
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Postby aitomies » Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:08 pm

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Postby YesJodi » Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:20 am

I enjoy the Ladder, and Mag, not crazy about OYE though. Talk is good too. :)
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Postby happytheman » Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:40 am

I too enjoy the Ladder very much, I only wished Igor had done more albums with Yes, I think there was a lot of potential with him in the band. Oh well we can only "hope" the band does some "new" material with Rick rather than year after year of touring the "same" set list they played in the 70's. This may seem harsh but Yes needs to "grow up". Do they realize it's 2004?
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Postby IWas Sam » Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:22 pm

I don't think this one aged particularly well. I sort of liked it when it came out, but I listened to it last week in my car and found it not so good. They tried to hard (I think) to recapture the 70s sound and missed .
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Postby YesFanfromSA » Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:03 am

I like The Ladder very much even thogh it's far from being the best Yes album ever. I love the classic Yes even though I still love the Yes from the 80's which I don't think will be around anywhere in the near future. Homeworld is my absolute favourite song on the CD. Great arrangement, great vocals, great everything.
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