Time and a Word Cover



Time and a Word Cover

Postby Chris2210 » Wed Sep 26, 2001 11:19 pm

My vinyl copy of Time and a Word has a black and white cover photo of a naked nude lady in the buff with no clothes on. Her head is out of sight, being beyond the door of the check tiled floor upon which she so decorously reclines. A stategically placed butterfly is before her.

Does anyone know if this is the original artwork later replaced in more politically correct times? I bought the album in something like'76 so it could be the case that this was a second version. The inner sleeve is missing and I don't think there are credits for the artwork on the reverse cover.
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Postby Ed1909 » Wed Sep 26, 2001 11:50 pm

I'm sure I read somwhere that the "naked" cover was the original, but was changed to the band photo for the US market.
(BTW, was that the case for Hendrix's Electric Ladyland? Did the US have the naked girls cover or something different?)

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Postby magnifier » Sat Sep 29, 2001 1:05 pm

This information is from 'The an Illustrated History of the Rock Album Cover'.
'Time and a Word.' "This is a fine example of a montage that still stuns although it is in monochrome. Lawrence Sackman's sleeve for Yes bewilders on three levels: the treesin a storm in the background; the of centre perspective of the chequered box, and the contorted nude. The complex image is given an illogical dream-like air by the dressy high heels worn by the girl and the exotic butterfly clinging to her hip. This illustrates a transition stage of the Art album cover, visibly moving towards that obscurity for art's sake where the buyer can find no information as to the sleeves contents."
"Recording Artist: Yes
Album title:Time and aWord
Record label: Atlantic
Release date: 1970
Design and photographs: Laurence Sackman
Design co-ordination: Graphreaks"
'Time and a Word' is also one of my favourite Yes songs, the live version on 'Yesshows' bein g my prefered version.
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Postby Chris2210 » Sat Sep 29, 2001 7:17 pm

Thanks for that info, Magnifier - that cover's my favourite part of the album.<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby N2yes » Sun Sep 30, 2001 9:21 am

<font color=red><BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>that cover's my favourite part of the album.
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<font color=red>Chris, you should be ashamed of yourself!! The depravity, the smut, these letcherous thoughts...those...graceful, arching curves...that suggestive pose...that...oh, nevermind!!<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle></font id=red>

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Postby Chris2210 » Mon Oct 01, 2001 12:48 am

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<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>
(BTW, was that the case for Hendrix's Electric Ladyland? Did the US have the naked girls cover or something different?)
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BTW, Ed you're right also about the Hendrix cover, our depraved :harumph: er, deprived cousins across the water just got a nice little piccy of Jimi on their 'Electric Landlady' (I don't know if it's apocryphal- but I read some early pressings did actually have that title) covers.
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Postby Ed1909 » Mon Oct 01, 2001 2:58 am

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<b>Chris2210 wrote:</b>
'Electric Landlady' (I don't know if it's apocryphal- but I read some early pressings did actually have that title) covers.
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I know Kirsty MacColl did an album of that title.

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Postby N2yes » Mon Oct 01, 2001 9:03 am

<font color=red>Speaking of "beautiful" covers, check out the "Venus Isle" work by Eric Johnson! Unbelievable!!! Stunning, in fact! </font id=red><img src=pix/salook.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Chris2210 » Mon Oct 01, 2001 4:31 pm

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<b>N2yes wrote:</b>
<font color=red>Speaking of "beautiful" covers, check out the "Venus Isle" work by Eric Johnson! Unbelievable!!! Stunning, in fact! </font id=red><img src=pix/salook.gif border=0 align=middle>

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My ignorance is showing again, Chris. This Eric, who is she?
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Postby Altair » Wed Oct 03, 2001 12:00 pm

Well, I can't remember how I got this CD. Perhaps it was through Ebay, or at the local used CD shack in town. But, my cover is of the band. Yep, 5 goofy looking, clothed hippies. However, the sleeve is complete and not only contains the naked lady, but also some far-out portraits of the boys. Jon is the 1st and looks as if he's holding a hit or something. Squire has some kind of crazy yell going on. Kaye is giving a pretty cool side view. Bruford looks like some kind of neandrathal. Finally, Banks in on the last page, looking through some kind of lense that fish-eyes his face. Some pretty cool B&W photography.
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Postby Chris2210 » Wed Oct 03, 2001 7:48 pm

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<b>Altair wrote:</b>
Well, I can't remember how I got this CD. Perhaps it was through Ebay, or at the local used CD shack in town. But, my cover is of the band. Yep, 5 goofy looking, clothed hippies. However, the sleeve is complete and not only contains the naked lady, but also some far-out portraits of the boys. Jon is the 1st and looks as if he's holding a hit or something. Squire has some kind of crazy yell going on. Kaye is giving a pretty cool side view. Bruford looks like some kind of neandrathal. Finally, Banks in on the last page, looking through some kind of lense that fish-eyes his face. Some pretty cool B&W photography.
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Those portrait shots sound like the ones which are on the inside cover of the 'Yesterdays' vinyl album. That's also got b&w pictures of Steve, Rick and Alan (the latter of whom isn't even featured playing on any of the tracks).
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Postby N2yes » Fri Oct 12, 2001 7:09 pm

<font color=red>Chris, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Lol...here I've left you waiting in the wings for 10 days or better. Eric Johnson is one seriously talented guitar player hailing from somewhere in Texas ( can't remember where ). His style is unlike anyone I have ever heard. He is incredibly fast but never sloppy, always crystal clear with each and every note. If given the option of labeling his wholly unique sound, I'd have to say that he defies labeling because he truly epitomizes what it means to be versatile. He easily switches gears from blues to a moderate jazz flavor to rock and then to a clever combination of the three( if that were really possible-maybe he's created his own genre ). With all sincerity, I recommend everyone who has a fine appreciation of music and the collosal talent it takes to make it, give him a listen. His three more prominent releases are:

1. Eric Johnson-"Tones"
2. Eric Johnson-"Ah Via Musicom"
3. Eric Johnson-"Venus Isle"

* I suggest trying "Ah Via Musicom" first. It's got a number on there devoted to a rather famous landmark in Britain. I'll put it to you like this. This landmark was a very comforting sight to bomber pilots returning from Germany in WWII. The song is very upbeat and tasteful as you might imagine.

Lastly, Eric plays in a fairly unique manner as well. He does not play low and straddled in a Jimmy Page-like fashion but rather the opposite. While watching him, you can't help but notice how high up he plays his guitar. He is fascinating to watch. I have seen him only on television on a show called "Austin City Limits", a show that celebrates the musical talents of a wide range of musicians. This guy is truly amazing. I hope you give him a listen.</font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Chris2210 » Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:03 pm

Sounds interesting, Chris. Know of anywhere I could download a sample? BTW, would this landmark you referred to have bluebirds flying over it? The female of the species would be more preferable to us though, eh? You know, as in "Sister bluebird, flying high above..." now <i>that</i> is what I call a classic...
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Postby Dr_Yes » Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:09 pm

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<b>Chris2210 wrote:</b>
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<b>N2yes wrote:</b>
<font color=red>Speaking of "beautiful" covers, check out the "Venus Isle" work by Eric Johnson! Unbelievable!!! Stunning, in fact! </font id=red><img src=pix/salook.gif border=0 align=middle>

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My ignorance is showing again, Chris. This Eric, who is she?
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Chris,

Echoing N2Yes's sentiments on Eric Johnson, he's well worth a listen. His playing is beautiful almost liquid. Lots of jazzy inflections and a supreme tone. He's well known in the guitar playing world for his obsessive devotion to getting this tone right even down to using the right type of batteries for his effects units. he toured with Steve Vai and Joe Satriani on their G3 tour, a video of which exists.

He has also appeared on some other albums as a season man, most notably Christopher Cross's album, where he played alongside Jay Graydon.
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Postby Dr_Yes » Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:12 pm

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He has also appeared on some other albums as a season man, most notably Christopher Cross's album, where he played alongside Jay Graydon.
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Season man? What the. . . ? Summer, Spring, Salt or Pepper? <img src=pix/icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/silly.gif border=0 align=middle>

Did I mean session?
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Postby Chris2210 » Sat Oct 13, 2001 12:11 am

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he toured with Steve Vai and Joe Satriani on their G3 tour, a video of which exists.

He has also appeared on some other albums as a season man, most notably Christopher Cross's album, where he played alongside Jay Graydon.
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Aah, the third 'G' (not the fourth season<img src=pix/silly.gif border=0 align=middle>). He must be pretty good and obviously not as obscure as I thought. Thanks, David.
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Postby N2yes » Sun Oct 14, 2001 1:25 pm

<font color=red>Hell, don't bother with the sample, just take my word for it!!!!! Buy it!!</font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby perpetualchanger » Sat Apr 27, 2002 4:13 pm

Yes, it's an old topic but what the hell.

My CD copy of TAAW, purchased in 2002, has BOTH covers.

The group photo is on the actual cover (wassup with the teddy bear?). I've never liked this cover because Steve didn't actually play on this album and I've never thought that was fair to Peter Banks to have Steve on the cover. And Chris' shirt totally clashes with his vest. It looks like he got dressed in the dark.

In the booklet, the very first page on the inside (the back of the group shot) is the naked lady. The naked lady is also on the CD label.

My vinyl is the group shot. So I'm thinking this was the U.S. cover.

As far as the B&W pictures of the guys ... sheesh, Jon looks like he's about 100 years old! Bruford just looks dorky. Chris and Tony look OK. But Peter's is very cool. That fisheye thing plays with your thoughts and alters your mind! <img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby Astral traveller » Sat Apr 27, 2002 7:16 pm

I've got Time and a word 4 times. Got the naked girl cover, the Steve Howe cover and a Russian version with the naked girl cover in colour. Also got a german re-packedge with Yes 1 and TAAW wich is a complete different cover. but when you open it, it shows again the Steve Howe cover. pretty weird.
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Postby jjoneski » Mon May 06, 2002 5:08 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>Altair wrote:</b>
Finally, Banks in on the last page, looking through some kind of lense that fish-eyes his face. Some pretty cool B&W photography.
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Actually, I think he's holding a small drinking glass up to the camera, you know the kind with a thicker, heavier bottom? I tried it with one and it looks the same, creating a fish-eye effect.
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Postby guilddigger » Mon May 06, 2002 6:02 pm

<font face='Comic Sans MS'>no, that´s definitaly a camera lens.</font id='Comic Sans MS'>

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Postby TheMiz » Tue May 07, 2002 7:00 am

TAAW is a great example of something that has bothered for for years!

First of all the cover change!

What bothers me most is the fact that Steve Howe is shown on the cover but doesn't play one note on the CD!

If they wanted to change the cover or censor the orginal they could have done something other than what they used.

Banks has been upset with the cover change but NOT WITH HOWE!
Peter knows it was not up to him.


The MAIN question is how the hell can't TAAW and the YES cd NOT HAVE SOLD a Million copies yet?

I sold tons of them in my record store in the early 70's
they still sell.

Some of us have bought the same CD serveral times!

I have always thought the sales numbers for those 2 CD have been fudged! ( It really isn't hard to sell a million copies anymore! )


Now lets look at the RIAA

They claim either CD or LP has sold enough to have gone GOLD !

CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? To go Gold you only have to sell 500,000

How many of you don't think that TAAW or YES hasn't sold at least
500,000 each?
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