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Postby TenVoices » Thu Mar 14, 2002 5:55 am

I love reading thoughts regarding this album, and I am impressed with the number of you that actually like the album. Of course, my opinion is that this album is bad, real bad.

It is a lyrically shallow album with music that sounds like a Sesame Street sing-a-long in certain places. Before you bash me, I absolutely love Yes, but this album is way down on the list for me. Believe it or not, I have 4 albums ranked lower than this one.

Thank goodness Bruce Fairbairn came along and set them back on track again.
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Postby Bill » Thu Mar 14, 2002 7:10 am

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I love reading thoughts regarding this album, and I am impressed with the number of you that actually like the album. Of course, my opinion is that this album is bad, real bad.

It is a lyrically shallow album with music that sounds like a Sesame Street sing-a-long in certain places. Before you bash me, I absolutely love Yes, but this album is way down on the list for me. Believe it or not, I have 4 albums ranked lower than this one.

Thank goodness Bruce Fairbairn came along and set them back on track again.
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Welcome! I vehemently disagree with you, but so what? That's what makes this fun! Glad you are here. What do you rank lower? Do you really feel the album is all bad? Can you think of elements you like? Reason I ask is: honestly, I like the fact the lyrics are a bit less spacey. To me it is far superior to the Keys to Ascension stuff, at least Keys I, which I find unlistenable.

Also, I really love "No Way We Can Lose". I am not sure how one can toss this particular song in the dustbin. Though I do like most all of the album, I can understand why others would not, but not with this song. Your thoughts?

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Postby TenVoices » Thu Mar 14, 2002 7:27 am

Bill, thanks for your feedback.

I'll admit I tend to like the epic Yes sound most, and that explains why the "less spacey" lyrics don't agree with me. In fact, the lyrics like Man in the Moon are too transparent. I can't get a euphoric feeling from those lyrics like I can with Gates or Ritual.

Musically, I am interested in a layered sound. I hear distinct parts for each song that never materialize into a unified sound. Granted, that is what my ear hears. Obviously, others on this thread hear differently.

What about the album do I like? New State of Mind harmonizes well.

No Way We Can Lose? I guess you speak to the apparent optimism this song relays. I can get into that since most bands dwell on the negative. Is that why you like the song?

Albums I like less than OYE.
4. Tormato
3. Time and a Word
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1. Magnification
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Postby Bill » Thu Mar 14, 2002 11:58 am

Actually, even though I made the comment about the lyrics, I am not a person who really focuses on them. Songs move me for different reasons: Awaken because it is melodically beautiful, Sound Chaser because it just throws all the rules in the bin and flies! Looking Around because it is a bit of a throwback, but good old rock and roll Yes style etc.

In the case of "No Way We Can Lose" it is melody. I just love it, especially the refrain, and when the mulitiple voices come together it just, well, moves me. I love complex music, but I do not care for complexity for complexity's sake--a reason I am not sold on Dream Theater's longer works. I have no problem with simpler songs if they are well written.

Billy Joel's "Always a Woman" is very simple, yet, to me one of the loveliest songs in pop music. Or James Taylors "Something in the Way She Moves". I don't think "No Way We Can Lose" is quite in that league, but it does rely on melody and simple, but lovely harmonies, to carry it along.

To me, Open Your Eyes was a necessary "stripping down" that Yes had to do after "Keys to Ascension." I was so disappointed in Keys I and had pretty much written off the band. "That, That Is" is unwieldy, and I feel "Be the One" is just plain bad.

Open Your Eyes was different, showing me that they were trying new stuff again. I also loved The Ladder, but I confess I am not at all sold on Magnification. I do not hate it, but I just cannot get excited by most of it.

I also think "Fortune Seller" is a great tune (with the exception of the 1-800 line at the very end which is silly). Anyway, that's my take on it.
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Postby TenVoices » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:13 am

Open Your Eyes was voted out in the first round of the Survivor game! I didn't vote for it, but I see Bill was disturbed. Feel free to vent below. I promise to read it, but I may not sympathize too much. <img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby perpetualchanger » Thu Mar 21, 2002 6:15 am

OYE seems so simple on the surface but when you listen to it several times, you realize that there's some real richness to the music. It has taken some time to grow on me but it's something I pull out when I'm looking for something fun and lighthearted.

Have to tell this funny story, which I've mentioned a couple of times in chat - the bonus track makes my pets act strange.

The male cat, he ignores everything anyway and seems to be unaffected by it. But the female cat will go over to the entertainment center and lay in front of it when she hears the nature noises start (she also does the same thing on the intro of CTTE). I think it's the birds that draw her in.

The real kick in the pants is watching the dog growl and bark at the stereo. He can hear the birds, can't see them, and it's sheer torture for the poor pup. He'll run to the window, see nothing outside, then run back to the entertainment center when he hears the singing. Then he goes back to the window to look for the birds. Then they'll sing another snippet, and he barks at the stereo because he can't seem to figure out why humans are singing in the middle of the bird song. Funny as hell.

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Postby guilddigger » Thu Mar 21, 2002 7:23 am

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i have a record that used to drive my dog nuts. there is a track where they sing haa haa hoh haa haaa on the inhales. she didn´t like that at all and barked like hell everytime they got to that part.
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Postby yeskat » Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:23 pm

One of my cats also acts strangely to the nature sounds on OYE. She'll look at the speaker, and then when it stops she'll turn away only to look again at the next sound! It drives her crazy!

By the way, OYE is my 10-year-old son's favorite YES album. He goes to sleep listening to it almost every night. He likes it more than Magnification. When I asked him why, he says it's because it's "happy sounding"! He likes "Fortune Seller" the most out of all the songs. He goes around singing it all the time. Ah! Nothing like a young YES fan!<img src=pix/icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Postby perpetualchanger » Fri Mar 22, 2002 2:20 am

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The female cat LOVES CTTE, I think it might be her favorite song. She will go up and nuzzle the part of the stereo she can reach when it comes on. When I sing it she comes running. She seems to be more affected by music than the other two pets anyway and likes just about everything, but she shows a distinct preference for CTTE.

The male cat is a pompous ass and it doesn't affect him much. He's 11 in people years and he doesn't want to be bothered by anything.

The dog, well, he's a different story. Hubby seems to think that since he's a blue tick hound, he likes country music. I have to admit, hubby seems to be right on this one.

We have music channels on our cable TV system. Whenever we leave the house, we turn music or the TV on for the dog so he doesn't act up as much when we get home. When I leave the classic rock station on, he barks like hell and bangs against the sides of his cage when we come in. When we leave him with country music, he wags his tail and doesn't jump on us when we let him out. Dog has no taste in music! <img src=pix/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Postby KEVIN2112 » Tue Mar 26, 2002 7:45 am

Open Your Eyes is not Yes's best effort, but I like it better than Tormato or Tales. Incidentally, I think Man In The Moon is awful. That recurring keyboard is way too loud and obnoxious. But, there are a bunch of good songs on the cd. No great ones, but it is still a pretty good effort. Clearly, it cannot compare to what followed (The Ladder), but oh well...
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Postby Krish Tewari, M.D. » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:25 am

I haven't listened to OPen Your Eyes for some time now, but I remember that it sounded a bit different for Yes, but I loved it just the same, especially the title track, from the balcony, man in the moon and fortune seller. As with all of the Yes output, it was a beautiful album. I'm currently listening to Tormato, Song of Seven and The Promise Ring today!
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Postby Stoutman » Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:21 pm

Don`t be too hard on Mr. Flanagan ,guys.I don`t think he was trying to hurt anyone here. It`s the sign of a new guy trying to fit in. At least he is honest,I`ll give him that. What would this site be without different opinions. And if you talk to him in the chatroom,he is a very nice guy.
If you remember some of my early posts,I was pretty vicous at certain times. I can identify with Mr. Flanagan. When you are new here,you are never sure how you are going to be accepted. Believe me,I`m still unsure of myself here at times. But I always tried to lace my posts with humor,not `Good Humor ' ice cream pops. NYC humor,which can boredr on wisecracks and sarcasm. Unfortunately,it can be cutting and it can hurt people`s feelings. I`m trying to be more mindful of that. Believe me ,Jon,people will like you better for it here.
As far as the album is concerned,if you refer to my bottom 5 a while back,it`s at the top of my list.I still feel that way,unfortunately. I guess some of us fans can be too demanding and we do tend to judge a new album by what has gone down before.But if you like the album,bless ya. If that`s what does it for you.
Actually,the album does have a redeeming quality for me. It has served as a coaster for when i drink coffe or hot chocolate at the coffe table. Friends are often impressed and ask me;`Where did you get that cool coaster'?
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Postby yeskat » Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:54 pm

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Don`t be too hard on Mr. Flanagan ,guys.I don`t think he was trying to hurt anyone here.
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You're right, Stoutman! I think we sometimes tend to jump on someone with stronger opinions, and we shouldn't...
Sorry, Jon! I always enjoy your opinions! Keep 'em coming!
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Postby perpetualchanger » Tue Mar 26, 2002 8:52 pm

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Open Your Eyes is not Yes's best effort, but I like it better than Tormato or Tales. Incidentally, I think Man In The Moon is awful. That recurring keyboard is way too loud and obnoxious.
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I'm hurt, Kevin. That "recurring keyboard" is one of the many reasons I like the song. You also say you like OYE better than TFTO. Oh, my. No wonder I am hurting, you have stabbed me in my already bleeding heart. <img src=pix/icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> (OK, I'm exaggerating. But you get my drift.)


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Postby TenVoices » Wed Mar 27, 2002 12:33 am

OYE better than Tales? Someone has been <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle> too much....
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Postby perpetualchanger » Wed Mar 27, 2002 6:54 am

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OYE better than Tales? Someone has been <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle> too much....
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Postby KEVIN2112 » Wed Mar 27, 2002 9:57 am

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OYE better than Tales? Someone has been <img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle> too much....
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Different strokes for different folks, I guess...
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