Relayer - Vast penetrating force

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Relayer - Vast penetrating force

Post: # 1764Post fragilesi
Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:39 pm

Hmmm, remember when we used to do trivia here<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>.

How about this one . . .

<font face='Trebuchet MS'><i>In what year was the original concept for the Relayer album cover first drawn by Roger Dean?</i></font id='TrebuchetMS'>

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Post: # 32670Post IngnoZac
Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:18 am

erm... year?

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Post: # 32739Post relayer4u
Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:23 am

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>fragilesi wrote:</b>
Hmmm, remember when we used to do trivia here<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>.

How about this one . . .

<font face='Trebuchet MS'><i>In what year was the original concept for the Relayer album cover first drawn by Roger Dean?</i></font id='TrebuchetMS'>

Simon.
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Sorry I don't have the answer for this. I just wanted to boot this back to the top.

YEStrivia has become YEStrivial!

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Post: # 32795Post IngnoZac
Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:54 pm

okay, this is my trivia:

This topic has two replies (if you count this one, it has three)... but the topic menu says '1 reply'. I'll just check if this will happen again.

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Post: # 32944Post Ed1909
Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:49 pm

1966

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Post: # 32952Post fragilesi
Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:32 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>
1966

Ed (who owns a copy of Views!!!)


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GIT! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ed, is of course spot on and for completeness I'll post up some more info/thoughts about it later for those interested.

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Post: # 32976Post IngnoZac
Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:44 am

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>fragilesi wrote:</b>
I'll post up some more info/thoughts about it later for those interested.
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I am!!!

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Post: # 33050Post fragilesi
Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:14 am

Ed of course is 100% right and one of the reasons that I find this interesting is that when I first got the albums I had always imagined Dean to be totally inspired by the music. More than that Dean states in <i>Views</i> that Relayer is his favourite Yes album.

However, the fact that the initial concept was produced in 1966 would run counter to this. I still believe though that there is an element of the music shaping the art as the original concept (shown below) is still a far cry from the final masterpiece that graced the album. You have to also suspect that the music reflected the choice of concept from Dean's collection.
From the book, Dean's version is as follows . . .

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I cannot say that the music is ever a direct inspiration for my work. However, the music, the title and the art work are all related and must all affect each other to some degree. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

And the original plan for the image that Dean had certainly fits "Gates of Delirium", Dean's aim was to . . .

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>produce a giant gothic cave. A sort of fortified city for military monks; a secret stronghold for a fantasy knight's templar.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

And I still wonder if the snake was an addition inspired by the song, representing the evil of war that affects even the minds of good men.

A final thought, who's to say that the entire idea for Gates didn't spring from Jon seeing that original concept drawing. I guess we'll never know for sure . . .

But if you haven't got it I'd strongly recommend the purchase of <i>Views</i>, it still appears on eBay regularly.

Simon.

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