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Relayer - Vast penetrating force

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:39 pm
by fragilesi
Hmmm, remember when we used to do trivia here<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>.

How about this one . . .

<font face='Trebuchet MS'><i>In what year was the original concept for the Relayer album cover first drawn by Roger Dean?</i></font id='TrebuchetMS'>

Simon.

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2002 1:18 am
by IngnoZac
erm... year?

Damn, the only thing I don't have! [V]

Renato

<hr><i>He seemed like his normal self, though it's hard for me to say what normal was for him.</i>

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:23 am
by relayer4u
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<b>fragilesi wrote:</b>
Hmmm, remember when we used to do trivia here<img src=pix/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>.

How about this one . . .

<font face='Trebuchet MS'><i>In what year was the original concept for the Relayer album cover first drawn by Roger Dean?</i></font id='TrebuchetMS'>

Simon.
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Sorry I don't have the answer for this. I just wanted to boot this back to the top.

YEStrivia has become YEStrivial!

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<hr><font color=blue>Ray C.</font id=blue> <img src=pix/icon_yes_fish3b.gif border=0 align=middle>

<font color=red>"This to just remind you, All is meant to be."</font id=red>

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:54 pm
by IngnoZac
okay, this is my trivia:

This topic has two replies (if you count this one, it has three)... but the topic menu says '1 reply'. I'll just check if this will happen again.

Renato

<hr><i>He seemed like his normal self, though it's hard for me to say what normal was for him.</i>

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 3:49 pm
by Ed1909
1966

Ed (who owns a copy of Views!!!)


<hr>High vibration go on... <img src=pix/icon_yes_talis.gif border=0 align=middle>

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 8:32 pm
by fragilesi
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<b>Ed1909 wrote:</b>
1966

Ed (who owns a copy of Views!!!)


<hr>High vibration go on... <img src=pix/icon_yes_talis.gif border=0 align=middle>
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GIT! <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ed, is of course spot on and for completeness I'll post up some more info/thoughts about it later for those interested.

Simon.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:44 am
by IngnoZac
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<b>fragilesi wrote:</b>
I'll post up some more info/thoughts about it later for those interested.
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I am!!!

Renato

<hr><i>He seemed like his normal self, though it's hard for me to say what normal was for him.</i>

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:14 am
by fragilesi
Ed of course is 100% right and one of the reasons that I find this interesting is that when I first got the albums I had always imagined Dean to be totally inspired by the music. More than that Dean states in <i>Views</i> that Relayer is his favourite Yes album.

However, the fact that the initial concept was produced in 1966 would run counter to this. I still believe though that there is an element of the music shaping the art as the original concept (shown below) is still a far cry from the final masterpiece that graced the album. You have to also suspect that the music reflected the choice of concept from Dean's collection.
<img src="http://homepages.which.net/~simon.arnol ... oncept.jpg" border=0>
From the book, Dean's version is as follows . . .

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I cannot say that the music is ever a direct inspiration for my work. However, the music, the title and the art work are all related and must all affect each other to some degree. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

And the original plan for the image that Dean had certainly fits "Gates of Delirium", Dean's aim was to . . .

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>produce a giant gothic cave. A sort of fortified city for military monks; a secret stronghold for a fantasy knight's templar.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></font id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

And I still wonder if the snake was an addition inspired by the song, representing the evil of war that affects even the minds of good men.

A final thought, who's to say that the entire idea for Gates didn't spring from Jon seeing that original concept drawing. I guess we'll never know for sure . . .

But if you haven't got it I'd strongly recommend the purchase of <i>Views</i>, it still appears on eBay regularly.

Simon.