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Post: # 4294Post topographic_drama1980
Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:48 pm

Does anyone besides me dig this classic prog album? It is by far one of the overall best of the early-70's prog era. Sweet acoustic passages, powerful symphonic rock, a humurous little ditty, 3 mini-epics, and out-of-this-world lyrics and vocals from Peter Gabriel. The Musical Box and The Return Of The Giant Hogweed are absolute classics, especially the ending climax in "Hogweed." It's as if the song itself is having a full-on orgasm. I know it's a weird and twisted way of putting it but I can't explain it any other way. Who would've thought that a song about warring plants could be so powerful? The Musical Box, in my opinion, besides Supper's Ready, is the best song the band has ever done. The beautiful acoustic arpeggios, Peter's melancholy vocals, Phil Collins' best drumming ever, and the guitar/organ duel near the end, and even the overall concept of this ten 1/2-minute epic is beyond amazing. Phil Collins' lead vocal debut (For Absent Friends) is a short, very beautiful song about praying for loved ones that had passed. Seven Stones is also an awesome song that features some heavy Mellotron playing and some of the powerful vocals to come from Peter's lungs. Mike Rutherford and Steve Hackett do some great playing on bass and guitar respectively. Harold The Barrel is kind of the equivalent of The Sheriff or Benny The Bouncer from ELP as it is quite humorous. Harlequin, while not one of the best songs the band has ever done, is a beautiful little piece. The Fountain Of Salmacis is another sparkling jewel in the classic Genesis crown. It's a rather moody piece about the child Hermaphroditus (sp?) casting a curse on the fountain of the water-nymph Salmacis causing whoever touches that water to turn into a hermaphrodite. Amazing piece with an excellent middle section with Steve's finger-tapping leads in the forefront and a wonderful ending.

This album introduced people to Phil Collins and Steve Hackett in a big way and it also contains some of Peter Gabriel's best storytelling. For the first of 6 classic-lineup studio albums, excluding From Genesis To Revelation and Trespass, it is an excellent introduction to the prog-rock band that was Genesis, long before they were a successful power-pop/rock/AOR band of the 80's and early 90's.


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Post: # 70706Post Astral traveller
Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:07 pm

<font color=black>Yeah, 'The Musical Box' and 'Fountain of Salmacis' are 2 of the best pieces they ever done! Essential pieces in the Progworld in general.
'Giant Hogweed' is another killer, but mainly for that smashing finale, wich could even have been extended (it makes you wanna go on forever)

The other songs seem more or less 'filler', though when listened closely, their very interesting songs. 'Harold' is quite complex (great lyrics indeed), Harlequin is kinda restpoint before the closer Fountain and Seven Stones flows very well (nice grand chords as well)
The Collins song 'Absent friends' seems a bit misplaced, right after the Musical Box, kind of outtatime in retrospect, but thats the only thing I can find thats not brilliant on this classic.
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Post: # 70729Post Greenglade
Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:15 am

Yeah, I bought this back in '80 as LP. Fine album.
Salmacis is my favorite Gabriel-era early tune besides Stagnation, Dusk, and Supper's Ready.

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Post: # 70786Post Yogi_Bear
Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:33 am

i love nursery crimes!
i have a thing with "the return of the giant hogweed", i love that tune!
i think genesis was at it's peak during that time, foxtrot is also amazing.still i like some albums from the Collins singing era like Wind and wuthering and a trick of the trail, fantastic stuff.

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Post: # 70918Post PapaJimH
Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:40 am

The Musical Box was the first Genesis song I got into, and it still holds up as one of the best. Talk about dynamic range... from the acoustic guitar arpeggiated plucking to the symphonic orgasmic ending, it is classic prog at it's best. Also notable are the more cerebral Seven Stones and the wacky Harold the Barrel. This album showed that Genesis had some kind of magic, something that they would zero in on with the next album FOXTROT.

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Post: # 71019Post Sam
Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:12 pm

I love this album. The Musical Box is timeless. I also really like Hogweed - I think this may have been the introduction to Steve Hackett's tapping that Eddie Van Halen is often credited for creating. Brilliant stuff and the hint of better to come...

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Post: # 71023Post bundy
Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:03 pm

The only Genesis album I have on vinyl. I love this one. TMB is my favourite Genesis epic hands down. It's always held my attention more than Suppers Ready.

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Post: # 71071Post hennie552001
Tue Jun 08, 2004 5:44 am

One of my favourite Genesis albums. There are only 4 or 5 that I like more! And don't bash the accoustic numbers: Harlequin, Seven Stones and For Absent Friends are beautiful. (Am I getting old?)

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Post: # 75715Post moodyblue
Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:48 pm

Very "period" Genesis for me, a very quaint album in terms of sound and structure i feel. You could argue there are two standout tracks on here in "the musical box" and "fountain of salmacis" but just hearing this album transports me back to that time like no other. A million miles away from that Genesis nowadays !

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