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Post: # 61716Post yesireebob
Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:51 pm

Well if I could, I would post a photo of Hanky the Christmas Poo!
"... Sometimes he's nutty, sometimes he's corny, he can be brown or greenish-brown. But if you eat fiber on Christmas Eve, he might come to your town!"

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Fri Jan 02, 2004 1:43 am

"Ask and it shall be given you,
Seek and ye shall find,
Knock and it shall be opened unto you" .... Matthew 7:7

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<b>yesireebob wrote:</b>
Well if I could, I would post a photo of Hanky the Christmas Poo!
"... Sometimes he's nutty, sometimes he's corny, he can be brown or greenish-brown. But if you eat fiber on Christmas Eve, he might come to your town!"
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Fri Jan 02, 2004 10:39 am

My prayers have been answered!<img src=pix/jestera.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 62178Post tribute1969
Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:15 am

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>Here's another "take" on THE BIBLE:
http;//www.ircbible.destrukto-theater.nl</font id=red></font id=Tahoma></b>
Click on Bible Archive for more detail....

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Post: # 62200Post tardistraveler
Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:31 am

So, Earth is just a big chat room? Cool!

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Post: # 62225Post tribute1969
Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:12 am

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>WELL I LEARNED ONE THING FOR SURE:
PILOT HATES "SPAM"....
HARSH!!! </font id=red></font id=Tahoma></b>

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Post: # 62247Post tardistraveler
Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:58 am

Woke up this morning thinking about this one.

If reality is just a big chat room, with God as the sysop, then is what we perceive to be reality just really some mass hallucination? If so, maybe we have more control over our reality than we think we do!

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Post: # 62438Post jeffrae
Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:45 pm

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<font color=red><font face='Papyrus'>Nope, only revised it and tried to give it a bit more polish, Jeffrae. To save on bandwidth, we 'kill' ( actually lock ) threads that surpass the 200 mark and simply renew it, so to speak. No worries, it remains your creation.</font id='Papyrus'></font id=red>
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Sweet Deal!!!
I love the Propaganda this thread started... I guess you could call it that! hahaah

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Post: # 62876Post tribute1969
Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:47 am

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>Sometimes "GOD" just says:
"TALK TO THE HAND"....
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Post: # 62902Post tardistraveler
Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:36 pm

Tribute, where on earth DO you come up with this stuff? That one is truly bizarre!

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Post: # 63004Post tribute1969
Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:27 am

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>Faith!
Here' THE FUTURE of "Organized" Religion:
Themed Churches:
http://www.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/pri ... urch040111
What next?
The James Brown Tabernacle
Temple of Earth Wind and Fire
Ozzy Synagogue.....???
I'd Go.......
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<hr>"WHAT WOULD OZZY DO?"

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Post: # 63022Post tardistraveler
Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:01 am

How about this one honoring Bob Dylan?

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/ ... urchofbob/

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Post: # 63023Post tardistraveler
Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:02 am

Or while we're on the subject of Bob . . .

http://www.shellprompt.com/bobthequail/ ... rcorp.com/

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Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:25 pm

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>JC's
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"Buddy Jesus" President</font id=red></font id=Tahoma></b>

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Post: # 63280Post Megalodon
Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:56 pm

Jesus actually came from a much higher source than the average
man did. Man did not pre-exist in the heavens like Jesus
did before he was sent to earth by his Heavenly Father. Jesus was
no ordinary man, he had wisdom from UP ABOVE, so to speak..<img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 63282Post hennie552001
Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:35 pm

'Does earth plug a hole in heaven,
or heaven plug a hole in earth?'

(Peter Gabriel) From 'Anyway', The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis

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Post: # 63285Post guilddigger
Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:36 pm

<font face='Comic Sans MS'>if you ever wondered what jesus did all those years when he was gone, john prine has a theory.
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Jesus.... the missing years

It was raining, it was cold
West Bethlehem was no place for a twelve year old
So he packed his bags and he headed out
To find out what the world’s about
He went to France, he went to Spain
He found love, he found pain.
He found stores so he started to shop
But he had no money so he got in trouble with a cop
Kids in trouble with the cops
From Israel didn’t have no home
So he cut his hair and moved to Rome
It was there he met his Irish bride
And they rented a flat on the lower east side of Rome...
Italy that is
Music publishers, book binders, bible belters, money changers,
spoon benders and lots of pretty Italian chicks.


Wine was flowing so were beers
So Jesus found his missing years
He went to a dance and said "this don’t move me"
So he hiked up his pants and went to a movie
On his thirteenth birthday he saw "Rebel Without a Cause"
He went straight on home and invented Santa Claus,
who gave him a gift and he responded in kind.
He gave the gift of love and went out of his mind
You see him and the wife wasn’t getting along
So he took out his guitar and he wrote a song
called "The Dove of Love Fell Off the Perch"
But he couldn’t get divorced in the Catholic church
At least not back then anyhow
Jesus was a good guy, he didn’t need this shit
So he took a pill with Coca-Cola and he swallowed it.
He discovered The Beatles
And he recorded with The Stones
Once he even opened up a three-way package
In southern California for old George Jones

The years went by like sweet little days
With babies crying pork chops and beaujolais
When he woke up he was seventeen
The world was angry, the world was mean.
Why the man down the street and the kid on the stoop
all agreed that life stank, all the world smelled like poop
Baby poop that is ..the worst kind
So he grew his hair long and thew away his comb
And headed back to Jerusalem to find mom, dad and home
But when he got there the cupboard was bare
except for an old black man with a fishing rod.
He said "whatcha gonna be when you grow up? "
Jesus said "God".
Oh my god, what have I gotten myself into?
I’m a human corkscrew and all my wine is blood
They’re gonna kill me mama, they don’t like me bud.
So Jesus went to Heaven and he went there awful quick
All them people killed him and he wasn’t even sick
So come and gather around me my contemporary peers
And I’ll tell you all the story of
Jesus...the missing years
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<hr>stay awaken

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Post: # 63782Post tribute1969
Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:47 am

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>LESS CRAP-More FILLING
Sounds Like a Pepto Bismol commerical.....
Wonder "who(m)" would make a heavenly sponsor?????</font id=red></font id=Tahoma></b>

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Post: # 63813Post jeffrae
Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:43 pm

I heave created a monster with this topic... hahahaha...

I would have never knew...

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Post: # 63816Post tardistraveler
Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:04 am

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<b>tribute1969 wrote:</b>
<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>LESS CRAP-More FILLING
Sounds Like a Pepto Bismol commerical.....
Wonder "who(m)" would make a heavenly sponsor?????</font id=red></font id=Tahoma></b>
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Yes, it's "Religion Lite"! Less crap - more filling! Guaranteed to soothe your soul and wash your sins away - AND for a $50.00 donation, you can also receive the "free" booklet, "How to Live Your Life Irresponsibly, and STILL Get to Heaven!" We'll be performing baptisms this Sunday, so SIGN UP NOW!!!

This message has been brought to you by the Church of Heaven on Earth - why wait until you die? Live it NOW!

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Post: # 63960Post tribute1969
Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:17 pm

<b><font face=Tahoma><font color=red>AND FOR MY "FIRST" POST OF THE NEXT 1000....
PINK JESUS....NOT PINK FLOYD, BUT PEPTO PINK JESUS.....
JUST HOW "THIS" IS A PROTEST AGAINST THE POWER COMPANY
IS BEYOND ME...ANY IDEAS????
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Post: # 63982Post tardistraveler
Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:32 am

Interesting pic, Tribute. Guess it DID get attention for the man - so maybe his protest worked in that regard. But why PINK Jesus? Definitely bizarre!

Wonder if he ever got power?

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Post: # 64202Post gatesofdeliriumcrasher
Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:36 am

O.K., some of this is certainly getting bizarre! Good to see (most of us) have a healthy sense of humor concerning the looneyness of fighting over "religious" differences. Well, in that same vein, but slightly more serious, I offer this e-mail from God. Please copy and paste it into your e-mail browser and send it around. I think it could do a world of good!

Ray


From: GOD
To: My Children on Earth
Re: Idiotic Religious Rivalries
My Dear Children (and believe me, that's all of you),:

I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing, to take place, cell by cell, and gene by gene.

I've been patient through your fashions, civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again. I want to let you know about some of the things that are starting to tick me off.
First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall.
Enough already!
Let's get one thing straight.
These are YOUR religions, not Mine.
I'm the whole enchilada; I'm beyond them all. Every one of your religions claims there is only one of Me (which by the way, is absolutely true). But in the very next breath, each religion claims it's My favorite one. And each claims its Bible was written personally by Me, and that all the other Bible's are manmade.
Oh, Me. How do I even begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?
Okay, listen up now. I'm your Father AND Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children.
Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I've always been more of a "doer" anyway. So ALL of your books, including those Bible's, were written by men and women. They were inspired, remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word more than your own living heart.
You see, one human being to me, even a bum on the street, is worth more than all the Holy Books in the world. That's just the kind of guy I am.
My Spirit is not a historical thing, it's alive right here, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but not more so than the least of you. They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me.
Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense.
You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or "win souls" for My sake.
Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on my own, thank you.
I don't need you to defend Me, and I don't need constant credit.
I just want you to be good to each other.
And another thing, I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas. For example, I swear to Me *smile,* that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh's Rolls Royces. I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I've never EVER had a conversation with Jim Baker, Jerry Falwell, or Jimmy Swaggart! Of course, come Judgment Day, I certainly intend to...
The thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of your religions is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around.
Believe Me, I know you already.
I know what's in each of your hearts, and I love you with no strings attached. Lighten up and enjoy Me. That's what religion is best for.
What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am. You look at the petty differences in your Scriptures and say, "Well, if THIS is the truth, then THAT can't be!" But instead of trying to figure out My Paradox's and Unfathomable Nature, which by the way, you NEVER will, why not open your hearts to the simple common threads in all religions.
You know what I'm talking about. Love and respect everyone. Be kind, even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I am always with you. Learn how to be quiet, so you can hear My still, small voice. (I don't like to shout). Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My Own Child. Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can't, won't. So don't worry, be happy. (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but who do you think gave it to him in the first place?)
Simple stuff. Why do you keep making it so complicated? It's like you're always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I'm very tired of being your main excuse.
Do you think I care whether you call me.... Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, Wakantonka, Brahma, Father, Mother or even the Void of Nirvana? Do you think I care which of My special children you feel closest to, Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed or any of the others? You can call Me and My Special Ones any name you choose, if only you would go about My business of loving one another as I love you.
How can you keep neglecting something so simple? I'm not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs? Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart, I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all the Great Traditions in One Big Mess. Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves.
But My Special Children, the ones that your religions revolve around, all live in the same place, (My heart), and they get along perfectly, I assure you. The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotry's and confusion. The whole planet is connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual needs and concerns.
Get with the program! If you really want to help, then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry, clothe your naked, protect your abused, and shelter your poor. And just as importantly, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor. I've given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, loving, and laughing together.
Finally, My Children everywhere, when you think of the life of Jesus and the fearlessness with which He chose to live and die.... As I love Him, so do I love each one of you.
I'm not really ticked off, I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer. But I gave you free will. I just want you to be happy.
Always Trust in Me.
Your One and Only,

God


<hr>Must we dismantle Democracy here at home just to export it overseas?

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Post: # 64203Post gatesofdeliriumcrasher
Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:39 am

Here's more to ponder -

I wonder if Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Buchanan and the rest of the Religious Right can pass this quiz -
An engineering professor is treating her husband, a loan officer, to dinner for finally giving in to her pleas to shave off the scraggly beard he grew on vacation. His favorite restaurant is a casual place where they both feel comfortable in slacks and cotton/polyester-blend golf shirts. But, as always, she wears the gold and pearl pendant he gave her the day her divorce decree was final. They're laughing over their menus because they know he always ends up diving into a giant plate of ribs but she won't be talked into anything more fattening than shrimp.

Quiz: How many biblical prohibitions are they violating?
Well, wives are supposed to be 'submissive' to their husbands (I Peter 3:1). And all women are forbidden to teach men (I Timothy 2:12), wear gold or pearls (I Timothy 2:9) or dress in clothing that 'pertains to a man' (Deuteronomy 22:5). Shellfish and pork are definitely out (Leviticus 11:7, 10) as are usury (Deuteronomy 23:19), shaving (Leviticus 19:27) and clothes of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19). And since the Bible rarely recognizes divorce, they're committing adultery, which carries the rather harsh penalty of death by stoning (Deuteronomy 22:22). So why are they having such a good time? Probably because they wouldn't think of worrying about rules that seem absurd, anachronistic or--at best--unrealistic. Yet this same modern-day couple could easily be among the millions of Americans who never hesitate to lean on the Bible to justify their own anti-gay attitudes.



<hr>Must we dismantle Democracy here at home just to export it overseas?

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Post: # 64205Post gatesofdeliriumcrasher
Mon Feb 09, 2004 7:46 am

Still more great stuff on this topic!
(for those of tou who don't know, Dr' Laura is one of these so-called relationship "experts" who is an EXTREME homophobe and has her own call in radio show! If it were up to me, she'd be yanked off the air in an instant!)

An Open Letter to Dr. Laura


Dear Dr. Laura:



Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.



a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?



b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?



c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.



d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?



e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?



f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?



g) Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some room for maneuver here?



h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?



i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean. May I still play football if I wear gloves?



j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)



I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.



Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.



<hr>Must we dismantle Democracy here at home just to export it overseas?

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Post: # 64239Post tardistraveler
Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:21 am

Ray, these are priceless! I love the letter from God, and agree 100% that all the religious rivalry is absurd. If we just all tried to love each other as God loves us, that would solve all the world's problems, I think.

And the letter to Dr. Laura pointing out the antiquities in the Bible was great! Now, where can I get my own slave? LOL Just goes to show you how laws which made sense in the historical context make no sense now.

Thanks so much for sharing these - gave me a great laugh this morning!

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Post: # 64274Post Megalodon
Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:17 pm

Ray, Those laws regarding things such as the prohibition of contact
with women during their menstrual cycles, eating pork and shellfish,
and keeping the sabbath etc, etc,, were done away with when Christ
became the law, replacing the mosaic law.
The reason for those laws back then was to keep the holy nation
of Israel as a separate nation from the world and to keep the
camp clean of any defilement. Burnt offerings and grain offerings
had to be made to make atonement of sin in order for the holy
nation of Israel to be kept clean in the eyes of God.
God made a greater sacrifice that would cover everyones sins once
and for all by giving his only be-gotten Son Jesus. That Ransom
sacrifice is a provision to cover all sins by man if man is willing
to exercise faith in that provision, they will be forgiven,
therefore, eliminating the need for any animal sacrifice or
grain offerings to make atonement for sins under the old mosaic
law.
It is ok to eat pork now, and it is ok to be "In The Presence of"
women during their 'time' now (but it is not ok to have intimacy
during that time), that's only common sense..
The reason slavery was permiited in the nation of Israel under
the mosaic law was because the slaves were outsiders that came to them, because they did not have anywhere elso to go, so they had
help out with the camp, but the slaves wre to be treated with
dignity.
I could go into this alot more, but it is getting late.. And yes,
Gods name is Jehovah, and he has made that known for a long time.
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I did enjoy your posts Ray, and I agreed with some of it. Thanks
for sharing your point of view on matters, they were well written!

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Post: # 64275Post Megalodon
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<b>gatesofdeliriumcrasher wrote:</b>
Still more great stuff on this topic!
(for those of tou who don't know, Dr' Laura is one of these so-called relationship "experts" who is an EXTREME homophobe and has her own call in radio show! If it were up to me, she'd be yanked off the air in an instant!)

An Open Letter to Dr. Laura


Dear Dr. Laura:



Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.



a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?



b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?



c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.



d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?



e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?



f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?



g) Lev.21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some room for maneuver here?



h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?



i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean. May I still play football if I wear gloves?



j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)



I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.



Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.



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Ray I noticed this was you 666th post, you may be doing an evil
thing by mocking Gods laws and his holy writings here. Be careful,
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Post: # 64299Post ycantibu
Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:40 am

I thought jesus said he didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it?



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<b>Megalodon wrote:</b>
Ray, Those laws regarding things such as the prohibition of contact
with women during their menstrual cycles, eating pork and shellfish,
and keeping the sabbath etc, etc,, were done away with when Christ
became the law, replacing the mosaic law.
The reason for those laws back then was to keep the holy nation
of Israel as a separate nation from the world and to keep the
camp clean of any defilement. Burnt offerings and grain offerings
had to be made to make atonement of sin in order for the holy
nation of Israel to be kept clean in the eyes of God.
God made a greater sacrifice that would cover everyones sins once
and for all by giving his only be-gotten Son Jesus. That Ransom
sacrifice is a provision to cover all sins by man if man is willing
to exercise faith in that provision, they will be forgiven,
therefore, eliminating the need for any animal sacrifice or
grain offerings to make atonement for sins under the old mosaic
law.
It is ok to eat pork now, and it is ok to be "In The Presence of"
women during their 'time' now (but it is not ok to have intimacy
during that time), that's only common sense..
The reason slavery was permiited in the nation of Israel under
the mosaic law was because the slaves were outsiders that came to them, because they did not have anywhere elso to go, so they had
help out with the camp, but the slaves wre to be treated with
dignity.
I could go into this alot more, but it is getting late.. And yes,
Gods name is Jehovah, and he has made that known for a long time.
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I did enjoy your posts Ray, and I agreed with some of it. Thanks
for sharing your point of view on matters, they were well written!
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Post: # 64304Post Megalodon
Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:06 am

He did indeed fulfill the law. The law was to offer animal sacrafices
or grain offerings to make atonement for sin. Jesus fulfilled
that law by giving his perfect life and the out-pouring of
his blood making atonement for mankinds sins once and for all.
Therefore that ransom sacrifice of Christ did away with the
old law covenant concerning burnt or grain offerings. Christ
them became the law and Christians were not under the mosaic
law covenant regarding those things. However, Laws from the
ten commandments still apply except for the sabbath. Also,
laws regarding love for God and neighbor still apply more than
ever.

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