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Post: # 111360Post Terry Shea
Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:28 am

Greenglade's Frog wrote:The people who believe that Fox reports the truth are perhaps the most feared on this planet ,and the most reviled. Their inculcation of the gullible American populace is exactly what will keep this planet in chaos.

You should go overseas and ask what others think of our foreign policy. If you say stuff like "Support the troops and the Iraq war" , "Vietnam was honorable and necessary", "Bush was honest","Let Israel slaughter Palestinians"....you are going to get almost nothing but opposition to your views.

Get out of America and see what the rest of the world thinks!!!

So, one news station is the "Truth"?

Actually all news stations only report the news within certain boundaries of acceptable opinion; and how could they do otherwise, considering they have to report what is allowed by their sponsors, and a certain ruling capitalistic oligarchy, the elite that controls the Media?

Try Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. He at least is trying to finally express an oppposite view ...

I used to believe what the news told me. Now, I have realized that it is mostly slanted toward certain acceptable "truths".

Do you want to reap the bad karma from this?
Documented civilian deaths from violence in IRAQ
89,544 – 97,762
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
Do you want to reap the bad karma from this?

If you really support the great war crime of the century, then maybe you have become really indoctrinated with the fear that you were taught by whoever spoke most loudly. The real information is in alternate journalists' and scholars reports, like Chomsky.

Read some of Michael Moore's books. Don't be afraid. Their are hundreds of US soldiers that agree with him now.

You seem to always express a very rigid authoritarian view. I gaurantee you that if you try to open your mind and seek other opinions you will understand.
Your views are almost stereotypical: Good Conservative Christian Macho Patriotic Republican. My god, Jeez it is like a joke or something. Sort of like that drill sergeant in FULL METAL JACKET. If you really want to practice what you preach, go enlist, go to Iraq, become a televangelist or fast in a cave like a monk.
Sorry, but try googling all the errors reported by the AP, CNN, Newsweek, etc., sometime. There's where the real liars exist. The problem is that people who lean to the left seem to want their news to lean to the left so that it reinforces their distorted view of the world. When a news source goes against the grain and doesn't lean to the left and tries to be "fair and balanced" it will never appear that way to a leftist because they aren't reporting the same lying, distorted crap you get from the liberal news sources. You'll also get many news stories the lying, liberal, leftist news agencies want to bury under the rug.

Keith Olbermann is a raging, raving, leftist lunatic. I liked him when he was on Sportcenter because he was funny and didn't mind making a fool of himself. Now he's gone political and he still makes a fool of himself, but the left worships him as their god, believing all the stupid and hateful garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Michael Moore is an absolute idiot! Nearly everything he comes up with has been proven to be a lie on his part. Why would anyone want to read a book by a proven liar and a lunatic to boot? I saw his movie Roger and Me and it was the worst piece of garbage ever produced. Any high school film student could create a better movie.

I have opened my mind. My mind is always open. Your mind is closed so tight I don't how you can even breathe. Look at the hateful venom you just spewed forth! You just described yourself to a tee and then projected your narrow mindedness onto me. I look at both sides of every issue. I consider numerous sources. I let people decide things for themselves. You look at only the extreme leftist point of view. You read books by only leftist authors, won't tolerate anything but leftist news sources and then dictate to people here what they should watch, whom they should read and whom they should listen to, and when they don't you resort to strawman arguments and hurling insults. I would have thought your banning would have taught you something but I guess some people never learn.
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Post: # 111363Post Terry Shea
Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:51 am

Greenglade's Frog wrote:I remember some arguments I had before, and in general the clincher was always my question:

"Will you go fight in Iraq or overseas for the USA?"

"Do you live your religion that you profess?"

Always, the question was avoided by my opponents. Or some excuses were given. All talk and no do. My oppenents were in denial and vehemently protested my views, and my two questions.

Enough already.
I don't see what your 2 questions have to with anything, but I'll be glad to answer them:

No, I won't go fight in Iraq or overseas for the USA. I'm 50 years old and I've never been in the military. I have a nice career position. The military won't take someone my age. If I were the proper age and in the military I'd do whatever I was ordered to do, even if I didn't agree with my orders. We have an all volunteer military, and these brave men and women know when they enlist that there is a strong possibility that they are going to be engaged in combat somewhere along the line. I mean how long have we ever gone w/o a war or some type of military presence?

Yes, I do at least try to live my religion, but being that I'm an imperfect human being, I sometimes fall short and fail. If you consider that to be an excuse then so be it. If that's the case then there is obviously no pleasing you and quite honestly I don't live to please you anyway, so you're just going to have to deal with it.

Now, please document where these questions were avoided by your opponents, excuses were given and/or they were in denial, because I haven't witnessed any such thing. I can certainly see where others may protest your views though. And please explain what these questions have to do with anything. I've answered these questions as honestly as I can.
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Post: # 111365Post 2Lizard4
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:00 am

Your views are almost stereotypical: Good Conservative Christian Macho Patriotic Republican.
And proud of it. Im proud of what that attitude has done. Helped win wars, create this nation, Build us into the power of 5% off the population on earth that has done more for other nations then any other country. Free oppressed peoples and nations, givin EVERYONE a chance to prosper, did the most to free the slaves and actually give egual rights. Heck if it wasnt for republicans during LBJs presidency, equal rights would had still been a dream.
Talk about Power hungry, after Lincoln was killed the demecrate who replaced him raveged this country, and almost lost all that Lincoln had done. And lets not forget the second demecrate, Andrew Jackson, lets see, he was a total control freak, he was the one who drove the indians from there lands, and who was it, the Navajos who took there case to the supreme court and won the right to stay, but Jackson would have none of that, and forced them to move, oh yeah the march of tears where so many of them died being drivin so hard to get them out quick.. This is not the same country, since Jimmy Carter. Heck LBJ and JFK would be considered right wingers by todays standards.
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Post: # 111366Post 2Lizard4
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:18 am

And these hollywood do gooders, I can remember all the "we are the world" sing along videos they did to raise charrities "im mean make them selves feel important". Most of all the money they raised was WASTED and TAKIN by theives. All they cared about was raising money, and not making sure, buy the means nessacery to make sure it got to those who where starving. Thats why I always gave to our church, I knew how everydollar was being used, and if was actually making a difference, because ther REALLY cared about the people it was for. Another thing about cheap wad obama and bidon, I paid my taxes, but the government didnt have to come and take even more of my money for speacial programs to help the poor, I give willingly, and again< I knew the money wasnt being squanded by or government, instead of actually helping the poor.

Do I believe, or do what my religion teachs, to the best of my ability. I can say one thing, when I fail, it is usually myself, and not others.

Would I go to Irag, well Im 50, but I would have to tell you, if they really needed me, yes, we have lots of people from my company that have been up at the front with the troops supporting them. If I am to die, Iam ready, I am VERY happy with the life I have been givin. Even if the arm chair warfighters pick out every thing about a war that has been fought. If I could make a real difference for a country and its people, and the world I would. Im just afraid that America will e come such a passifist do nothing for others country, that we will get now where.
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Post: # 111367Post yesman90125
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:18 am

Just thought I'd also add that the KKK was the an organization founded by southern democrats for sucession.
The KKK went on to do other things like support legal Abortion for Black Babies. By Propping up the Nazi socialists Ideas of Margaret Sanger and creating "Planed Parenthood" to see to it that this job got done.
Lets see-

WORLDWIDE
Number of abortions per year: Approximately 42 Million
Number of abortions per day:Approximately 115,000

UNITED STATES
Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day:Approximately 3,700

52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".

Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%

1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.

An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion.

total figure since 1973 rises to 39,290,477.
roughly 13% of the population. just erased.

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Post: # 111368Post 2Lizard4
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:29 am

You Know Terry, it is one thing that makes this country great that gives people the right to disagree, I love you passion, and I must admit that I hold nothing back in the section. Maybe not so much now, or maybe in other ways, Men AND WOMEN gave their lives for the right for people to be able to say what they want. Beaten, tortured, mutalated, disfigured,and killed for that right. What I think is funny is that the demacrates can EVEN MENTION the fairness doctrine. to deny conservitive talk radio the right to broadcast the material they do, they think NOTHING, NOTHING of those who did stand up and give for that right. Believe me I beleive in a balance of power, liberial and consrvitive. It just bothers me where the middle is, and it is not the prinapiles that made this country great, and diffined it soul. I have very lttle trust in men, right or left who have too much power.
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Post: # 111370Post 2Lizard4
Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:39 am

Im with you Yes man, My God you need a license to go fishing, but not to have a baby. I told you my regrets about not having my own children, but I have to say, Iam proud that Thought of the situation I was in first and the child I might have. My first two wifes thought of themselves, even when our marrages where very rocky, they wanted to have kids. I would not bring a child into this world, unless it had a world that would give them what THEY deserved. Even this Clay Akin guy, who has been a great volenteer,he had a child, in weird sercomstances, then takes a job that will not permit him to be a part of his babies life, oh thats right, he can hire nannies. One thing I wanted to say from my own excperince is, I know It is not that FRICKING hard to take some responsibilities, and think before you have a child.
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Post: # 111384Post NumberNine
Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:40 pm

I realy hope that the communication and listening to each other between the gouvernments gets better. its not right that one nation decides to do steps, other nations are not willing to carry, and after this the other nations have to carry the consequences of this decission.I know things are not that simple these days but i have to exaggerate.http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/to+exaggerate.html

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Post: # 111389Post Terry Shea
Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:27 am

yesman90125 wrote:Just thought I'd also add that the KKK was the an organization founded by southern democrats for sucession.
The KKK went on to do other things like support legal Abortion for Black Babies. By Propping up the Nazi socialists Ideas of Margaret Sanger and creating "Planed Parenthood" to see to it that this job got done.
Lets see-

WORLDWIDE
Number of abortions per year: Approximately 42 Million
Number of abortions per day:Approximately 115,000

UNITED STATES
Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day:Approximately 3,700

52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".

Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%

1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).

52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.

An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion.

total figure since 1973 rises to 39,290,477.
roughly 13% of the population. just erased.
What's your source for these numbers? I think most of them are probably fairly accurate but some of them don't seem to add up at all, particularly the one that claims that 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45. There are approximately 150 million women in the US. 43% would mean about 65 million abortions, not the slightly less than 40 million figure from above. That's also not taking into account women who have multiple abortions and the rate of turnover for the last 35 years. So I think the 43% figure is greatly exaggerated.
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Post: # 111391Post yesman90125
Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:24 am

Terry Shea wrote:What's your source for these numbers? I think most of them are probably fairly accurate but some of them don't seem to add up at all, particularly the one that claims that 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45. There are approximately 150 million women in the US. 43% would mean about 65 million abortions, not the slightly less than 40 million figure from above. That's also not taking into account women who have multiple abortions and the rate of turnover for the last 35 years. So I think the 43% figure is greatly exaggerated.
sorry I should have posted a link
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html

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Post: # 111393Post yesman90125
Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:11 am

Greenglade's Frog wrote:Sorry man, but IMHO she is a repressed bisexual woman and very masculine in essence. Either an actress or really believes in the job she does. Very frightening
are you saying you dont permit me to date this Megyn Kelly girl?
actually prior to being a news announcer or whatever
she was a corperate attorney at Jones Day Law firm heading the Washington, Chicago and New York departments, she has a degree in political science.
I'm pretty sure she's serious.
Is it scary when smart experienced people think something you dont agree with?
and do I senses a touch of homophobia or is it only when you come across powerfull smart women that aren't liberals.

jus askin..........

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Post: # 111395Post Kalingzeye
Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:41 am

Greenglade's Frog wrote:I do not permit you to date this Bill Hemmer boy


The best advice I can give you is :
-Do not watch FOX News
-Read NOAM CHOMSKY

Someday you will thank me
I would like to point out that Bill Hemmer was a long-time CNN anchor- he was there for ten years. Wiki says he only left CNN because they wanted to make him their senior White House Correspondent in DC and he wanted to remain in New York. Does that mean I can date him now? :rolleyes: If your only reason for not liking someone is cuz they are on Fox, well... I don't know what to say. But really, Fox is slanted right-of-center JUST as much as every other new channel I've seen is slanted left-of-center. It just makes things interesting, there's no station you can watch to escape some sort of bias one way or the other.

I do watch all the other stations- BBC, CNN, NMC/MSNBC- but recently I most frequent Fox because I like all their anchors so much more than any other channel. I don't know why, I just think they all have a lot of personality and make it more engaging to watch. I'm not talking about their big names, either... O'Reilly and Greta are very annoying to me... Don't like Heraldo too much, he kinda comes across as pretentious... Ollie North is boring... Hannity is so-so, but I very rarely sit and watch him... I do like Neil Cavuto. But their smaller anchors like the Fox & Friends group, etc are great... Steve Doocy, Bryan Kilmeade, Judge Napolitano, Lauren Green, Mike & Juliet, Bill Hemmer & Megyn Kelly... I like to watch people who have a sense of humor and are a little more light-hearted and less-serious all the time. :\

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William Ayers , American Hero

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William Ayers , American Hero

One of my few American heroes. Great 60's anti-war activist. A man I greatly admire for his stand against the Establishment and our corrupt US government when it was waging an illegal war in Vietnam.

Author of the excellent book Fugitive Days: A Memoir


I wish Obama would appoint him to some cabinet post. I fear Obama is not keeping his promises for real change. He kept the old Sec. of Defence
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:15 pm

Kalingzeye wrote:I would like to point out that Bill Hemmer was a long-time CNN anchor- he was there for ten years. Wiki says he only left CNN because they wanted to make him their senior White House Correspondent in DC and he wanted to remain in New York. Does that mean I can date him now? :rolleyes: If your only reason for not liking someone is cuz they are on Fox, well... I don't know what to say. But really, Fox is slanted right-of-center JUST as much as every other new channel I've seen is slanted left-of-center. It just makes things interesting, there's no station you can watch to escape some sort of bias one way or the other.

I do watch all the other stations- BBC, CNN, NMC/MSNBC- but recently I most frequent Fox because I like all their anchors so much more than any other channel. I don't know why, I just think they all have a lot of personality and make it more engaging to watch. I'm not talking about their big names, either... O'Reilly and Greta are very annoying to me... Don't like Heraldo too much, he kinda comes across as pretentious... Ollie North is boring... Hannity is so-so, but I very rarely sit and watch him... I do like Neil Cavuto. But their smaller anchors like the Fox & Friends group, etc are great... Steve Doocy, Bryan Kilmeade, Judge Napolitano, Lauren Green, Mike & Juliet, Bill Hemmer & Megyn Kelly... I like to watch people who have a sense of humor and are a little more light-hearted and less-serious all the time. :\
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:32 pm

Greenglade's Frog wrote:Image
William Ayers , American Hero

One of my few American heroes. Great 60's anti-war activist. A man I greatly admire for his stand against the Establishment and our corrupt US government when it was waging an illegal war in Vietnam.

Author of the excellent book Fugitive Days: A Memoir


I wish Obama would appoint him to some cabinet post. I fear Obama is not keeping his promises for real change. He kept the old Sec. of Defence
Well now I know for certain that you're out of your mind. One of the slogans for the '60's was "make love, not war". His slogan seems to be "make terrorism, not war". How can you defend such unrepentant scum?

And what exactly do you mean by an "illegal war"? Whatever, it was one of your liberal democrat buddies, LBJ, who got us involved in Viet Nam.

So I guess in your book 2 wrongs make a right, vigilanteism (sp?) is an acceptable means to an end and acts of terrorism are acceptable and even encouraged against those who hold differing opinions from your own, eh? When are you going to quit going down that road to darkness and see the light? Try to actually listen to and decipher some of Jon's lyrics. He's not telling you to go down that road, he's telling you to look up and see the light.
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Post: # 111417Post yesman90125
Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:33 pm

Greenglade's Frog wrote:Image
William Ayers , American Hero

One of my few American heroes. Great 60's anti-war activist. A man I greatly admire for his stand against the Establishment and our corrupt US government when it was waging an illegal war in Vietnam.

Author of the excellent book Fugitive Days: A Memoir


I wish Obama would appoint him to some cabinet post. I fear Obama is not keeping his promises for real change. He kept the old Sec. of Defence

is this meant to be intentionally provacative or is it REALLY your intent to idolize a murderer
I'd really like to know if your that stupid and evil or just making a joke.



maybe you'd like to send e-mail to the children of the people he's killed
and tell them how great Bill Ayers is.
Who else do you Idolize Usama Bin Laden?

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Re: The U.S. Presidential Election

Post: # 111418Post yesman90125
Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:42 pm

Kalingzeye wrote:I would like to point out that Bill Hemmer was a long-time CNN anchor- he was there for ten years. Wiki says he only left CNN because they wanted to make him their senior White House Correspondent in DC and he wanted to remain in New York. Does that mean I can date him now? :rolleyes: If your only reason for not liking someone is cuz they are on Fox, well... I don't know what to say. But really, Fox is slanted right-of-center JUST as much as every other new channel I've seen is slanted left-of-center. It just makes things interesting, there's no station you can watch to escape some sort of bias one way or the other.

I do watch all the other stations- BBC, CNN, NMC/MSNBC- but recently I most frequent Fox because I like all their anchors so much more than any other channel. I don't know why, I just think they all have a lot of personality and make it more engaging to watch. I'm not talking about their big names, either... O'Reilly and Greta are very annoying to me... Don't like Heraldo too much, he kinda comes across as pretentious... Ollie North is boring... Hannity is so-so, but I very rarely sit and watch him... I do like Neil Cavuto. But their smaller anchors like the Fox & Friends group, etc are great... Steve Doocy, Bryan Kilmeade, Judge Napolitano, Lauren Green, Mike & Juliet, Bill Hemmer & Megyn Kelly... I like to watch people who have a sense of humor and are a little more light-hearted and less-serious all the time. :\

I would suggest We dont feed the Trolls.
But I will say that Greta and her family were neighbors as I was growing up we had a place in northern wisconsin that we would spend parts of the summer and weekends at. She and her family (while shes a lot older than me) lived a few doors down. very nice and smart people.

anyway everything you and Terry[s] have said is absolutely correct (except that it was actually Kennedy that got us into Vietnam-LBJ escalated it)
the other commentator , as usual , has been sniffing paint fumes or something.

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Post: # 111419Post Terry Shea
Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:42 pm

yesman90125 wrote:sorry I should have posted a link
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html
Yeah, something really isn't adding up. If 47% of women who have had an abortion end up having multiple abortions there's absolutely no way 43% of all women have had or will have an abortion if we've had "only" about 40 million abortions in 35 years.
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Re: The U.S. Presidential Election

Post: # 111420Post yesman90125
Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:55 pm

Terry Shea wrote:Yeah, something really isn't adding up. If 47% of women who have had an abortion end up having multiple abortions there's absolutely no way 43% of all women have had or will have an abortion if we've had "only" about 40 million abortions in 35 years.
Your right , Perhaps they are taking the total number of abortions and dividing by the amount of woman to come up with that percentage. I just googled "Abortion stats" and grabbed what seemed to be credible info.
my fault for not digging in to deep if it's not credible

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Re: The U.S. Presidential Election

Post: # 111422Post Terry Shea
Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:01 pm

yesman90125 wrote:
anyway everything you and Terry[s] have said is absolutely correct (except that it was actually Kennedy that got us into Vietnam-LBJ escalated it)
Well, we may be splitting hairs here and we may have a difference of opinion about what actually constitutes a "war" (a bit of a misnomer in this case since it was never declared). But it was Johnson who sent combat troops over to the region and it was under his watch in 1964 that Congress adopted the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which gave him the authority to conduct military operations in the area w/o having congress formally declare war. If you ask me though the resolution was merely symbolic since the president is the commander-in-chief and doesn't need the approval of congress to conduct military operations.
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Re: The U.S. Presidential Election

Post: # 111423Post Terry Shea
Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:07 pm

yesman90125 wrote:Your right , Perhaps they are taking the total number of abortions and dividing by the amount of woman to come up with that percentage. I just googled "Abortion stats" and grabbed what seemed to be credible info.
my fault for not digging in to deep if it's not credible
Probably women of child-bearing age or those who reached child-bearing age in the last 35 years. Most of the other numbers seem to be accurate although I wouldn't put too much credence into the religion numbers since most people in this country identify themselves as "Christian" whether they actually practice the religion or not. The "born again" numbers are strikingly lower.
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Re: William Ayers , American Hero

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:09 pm

Greenglade's Frog wrote:Image
William Ayers , American Hero

One of my few American heroes. Great 60's anti-war activist.
Are you sure you don't mean anti-American activist?
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Re: William Ayers , American Hero

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:28 pm

Greenglade's Frog wrote:Image
William Ayers , American Hero

One of my few American heroes. Great 60's anti-war activist. A man I greatly admire for his stand against the Establishment and our corrupt US government when it was waging an illegal war in Vietnam.

Author of the excellent book Fugitive Days: A Memoir


I wish Obama would appoint him to some cabinet post. I fear Obama is not keeping his promises for real change. He kept the old Sec. of Defence

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More American heroes

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Re: More American heroes

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:31 pm

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Re: The U.S. Presidential Election

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:33 pm

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Police brutality against Vietnam protesters

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:41 pm

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AMERICAN WAR CRIMES

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:44 pm

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AMERICAN WAR CRIMES
George W. Bush - Terrorist in the White House

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My Detractors

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Uh, oh, wow, I expressed something beyond the range of Y----'s acceptable political opinion, oh now, got be careful with the Big Brother Y---n, monitoring my opinion if it is against his(their) political opinion. Uhh, uhhh, can't rebel or dissent , cuz Y----n is gona get ya ,90125-style, gotta agree and submit to his authority, oh, no, also can't express any opinion that T__S__a doesn't agree with.....oh no, gotta be scared, they might report me to Mr. Bush and the Pentagon....oh, and remember you got banned Greenglade, and they can get you again if you don't agree with the rightwing neo-cons in this thread and beyond....crush dissent within yourself Greenglade, cuz you can't win, they are gonna get ya, you must submit to accepted policy, and propaganda... and Y__m__ is gonna follow you wherever and make sure you follow orders, surrender to his view, cuz both he and T__S__will not allow oppositions to their Correct, Patriotic, All Powerful knowledge....watch out Greenglade"
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Re: My Detractors

Post: # 111438Post yesman90125
Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:17 am

Greenglade's Frog wrote:ImageMy Detractors

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Uh, oh, wow, I expressed something beyond the range of Y----'s acceptable political opinion, oh now, got be careful with the Big Brother Y---n, monitoring my opinion if it is against his(their) political opinion. Uhh, uhhh, can't rebel or dissent , cuz Y----n is gona get ya ,90125-style, gotta agree and submit to his authority, oh, no, also can't express any opinion that T__S__a doesn't agree with.....oh no, gotta be scared, they might report me to Mr. Bush and the Pentagon....oh, and remember you got banned Greenglade, and they can get you again if you don't agree with the rightwing neo-cons in this thread and beyond....crush dissent within yourself Greenglade, cuz you can't win, they are gonna get ya, you must submit to accepted policy, and propaganda... and Y__m__ is gonna follow you wherever and make sure you follow orders, surrender to his view, cuz both he and T__S__will not allow oppositions to their Correct, Patriotic, All Powerful knowledge....watch out Greenglade"
Dude you give yourself too much credit

BTW I didnt ask for you to be banned
I did ask for you to be modded about the 10th time you called me a sociopath and directed your bullshit at me
as you now again seem to be doing

and even then I just publicly posted what I would do if I was still the administator here
nothing went on behind your back

If you make a post expressing your opinion
the only thing you can expect from me is to hear my opinion

in this case
I asked you to expalin what you meant
you didn't
you just went off posting all your "things"
and somehow turned it into another one of your
Greenglade V Yesman rants



all I ask is you keep your politics in a political thread
and then I'll either confront you or ignore you

when you start Idolizing "Bill Ayers" in a thread called "post cool stuff you find online"
that detracts from everyones enjoyment
when you do it in a political thread that's different
because a person who isnt interested in either yours or my politics doesn't even have to open the thread
Knowing it's about politics.
I dont care if you open an "I hate Yesman" thread personally
then I know what's inside and I can chose to engage it or not

and again the people that moderate and administer the site can deal with you anyway they want

Or me for that matter

Luckily since our previous drawn out encounter I've run across[political] Idiots like you often on forums (though arguably none as ignorant)
and now I understand much more clearly where your mentality is at

you have no god or real moral or civic foundation so you have chosen Liberal/Progressive/Counterculture as the be all and end all of enlightenment and existance

and you enjoy antagonizing people with your provocations more than really dealing with any factual issues

I remember what it was like when I was 13 as well

have fun
your no threat to me or my Ideals



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