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Would you pay $375 to meet YES?

Post: # 4292Post BE
Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:56 am

Yes have taken steps to give their most loyal fans the first opportunity to buy tickets for the upcoming North America tour. Furthermore these seats are obtained specifically by Yes, and administered by Fanfire, who also handles Yes' merchandising.

It is very important to Yes that fans are satisfied with the presale service provided. Some fans in the past have expressed concerns regarding this process, and we would like to reassure you that measures are in place to guarantee your satisfaction.

We have chosen to take over fulfillment of tickets outside the normal Ticketmaster process. We have done this to ensure customer service not available through Ticketmaster. Yes assures you that some of the best tickets have indeed been put aside for the fans. We want to make sure the tickets end up with you the fans and not with ticket brokers.

You do not need to purchase the Platinum package to ensure great seats. You can get great seats through the presale...starting with row one! You will also find that the service charge is less than the Ticketmaster charge and includes credit card charges.

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Yes returns to the road this August, touring North America. Premium Tickets for the show below are now available at YesWorld.

- August 27 - Holmdel, NJ - PNC Bank Arts Center

We apologize for the late announcement of this presale. In the future you should receive notice well in advance of the presale.

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Yes Packages:

Bronze General Ticket Presale â€" For $12 over the ticket price:
- Ticket in rows 1-30

General Ticket Presale expires Saturday June 5th, 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific.

Gold Package â€" For $150 Ticket Package:
- One Ticket in rows 3-12
- Exclusive Gold T-shirt
- Collectible laminate â€" if spotted wearing a fan may be upgraded to the meet and greet.

Gold Packages available until sold out.

Platinum Package â€" For $375, Yes fans can live their biggest fantasy with:
- One Ticket in the first 3 rows
- Exclusive Platinum T-shirt
- A real VIP laminate for the show of your ticket purchase. You have no backstage access without escort.
- Autographed Collectible
- Meet and Greet with Yes
- Photo with Yes
- $25 coupon for online store

Platinum Packages available until sold out.

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Note: Packages and seat locations may vary by venue. Please read the show's ticket description for specific details.

For details about the presale please read the Yes Ticket FAQ at http://www.fanfire.com/yes/faq.html.

Get your "Premium" tickets at http://yesworld.com!
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Post: # 70664Post Ed Schaum
Thu Jun 03, 2004 9:23 am

I moved this topic back to the main section, it's a very important topic that needs maximum coverage.
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I think this is a terrible idea and I won't have any part of it. $300 to $750 for a pair of tickets is insane. This has nothing to do with the fans, this is lining someone elses pocket at the expense of the fans. Most fans won't be able to afford this at all, so it'll be available only to the elite few who can afford to drop a grand for an evening out, and to the ticket brokers.

Of course, the next tier of seating will become more expensive, pushing the real fans even further back.

I guess we can expect other things just like it down the pike - $50 autographs, $25 photo with the bandmember, $10 handshakes. Why stop there, go the full Kiss merchandising route... Yes coffins.

For anyone who says that it might be worth it, here's your chance to finally get great tickets...don't count on it. There have been a LOT of internet presales "for the fans" over the last 5 years. Sometimes you make you really good, other times the seats are worse than those available to the public.

I really do appreciate being able to vie for advance tickets with the other hardcore fans, and maybe paying a small bonus to whoever administers the sale (about the same as ticketmaster would get), but these heavy premiums are an insult. Out of the 8 or 10 presales I've been involved with, I got great seats 2 times, ok seats most other times, and bad seats 3 times.

And to everyone who will be buying "ordinary" orchestra seats, remember the excitement hoping you'd get lucky and get something in the first dozen rows???? Well, now you can just forget it, it looks like the seating for the masses doesn't even start until at least 30-40 rows back.

"But", you say, "I get to meet Yes." Yeah, you paid to meet them, doesn't that make you feel special?

Ugh.

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Post: # 70668Post BE
Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:00 am

I figure they are not giving out row/seat locations until they see how many Gold and Premium packages are sold! If there are only a few sold then thats how they can say a Bronze package COULD get first row .....So,if we all stick together and refuse to buy into these overpriced ripoffs and purchase only the Bronze package,then it could be a good deal!?
Going for the Bronze!

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Post: # 70669Post Terry Shea
Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:11 am

This is insulting! They ought to reward the true fans with free tickets since we've already lined their pockets with money for the past 35 years! I wonder how much an average true Yesfan has spent on Yes tickets, albums and merchandise over the years? Gotta be well into the thousands for me!

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Post: # 70671Post wild_westie
Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:38 am

Gold Package â€" For $150 Ticket Package:
- One Ticket in rows 3-12
- Exclusive Gold T-shirt
- Collectible laminate â€" if spotted wearing a fan may be upgraded to the meet and greet.

Notice - Collectible laminate, IF spotted wearing a fan MAY be upgraded to the meet and greet. Fat chance on that one. That's an outright lie. I work in radio and get passes for backstage concerts. Security is very very tight. We radio people most of the time, get access to a special catered room, private interviews, and
pictures with the band that they take and send to us. We're ushered by security at all times. I don't like this marketing. But do you remember the ticket prices people were paying to see Madonna? What in the hell is this world coming to.

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Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:42 am

<font face='Papyrus'><font size=3><font color=blue>The whole thing just makes me sick.<img src=pix/icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

I for one cannot afford either the Gold or Platinum packages, and what Ed said made a point...<b><i><u>PAYING</u></i> TO MEET THE BAND!? WTF!!??</b><img src=pix/icon_smile_angry2.gif border=0 align=middle>

What yesworld need to do is to simply have one of those good old fashioned <b>FAN CLUB</b> sort of things, and <b>GIVE</b> away tickets to the <b>TRUE</b> fans who join up <b>FOR <u>FREE</u></b>, and are <b><u>GIVEN</u></b> the chance to meet the band...
Sheesh! </font id=blue></font id=size3></font id='Papyrus'>

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Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:47 am

<font color=red><font face='Papyrus'>Hmmm...well, as much as I have always wanted to REALLY meet them and speak with them ( actually I could do without speaking with Steve ), if I couldn't be guaranteed a minimum of an hour, possibly 2 to really speak with them, I'd have to pass. I know, I know, that sounds a bit demanding, but I'm with Terry on this. I have already shown my appreciation through my devotion and my wallet and that should suffice. Like Ed said, the wealthy will swing it, but hey, I'm not a member of that elitist pack. Oh well, back to "Dreamtime".</font id='Papyrus'></font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=pix/icon_yes_yes2.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 70687Post Roan's Lady
Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:35 pm

Would I pay $375 to meet Yes?
NO WAY, whether I can afford it or not, this is a slap in the face. Perhaps my naivete is to blame - how often I've thought that Yes wouldn't be party to this type of corrupt and manipulative business practice...sigh...

I love this: "For $375, Yes fans can live their biggest fantasy with:
- One Ticket in the first 3 rows
- Exclusive Platinum T-shirt
- A real VIP laminate for the show of your ticket purchase. You have no backstage access without escort.
- Autographed Collectible" etc.

Gee, so this is my "biggest fantasy", is it?? Somehow I always thought that living my biggest fantasy where Yes is concerned would entail that surprise THRILL of bumping into them as they are leaving the venue, or hanging out with them when it is NOT concert night, in a peaceful place without a hundred other folks crowding around for a "piece" of them...or just being blown away by an incredible show of theirs (see MSG May 13, 2004)...but of course, those powers that be at FANFIRE know me best, so who am *I* to say??...and the simple joys of just getting to a show and maybe by just "getting lucky", meeting them - or NOT meeting them, no big deal!! Man, I miss the days of camping out in line, the night before tickets go on sale...now we all have to LOG IN, with our PASSWORDS, and USER NAMES, and scramble to get these "things" that will "fulfill our fantasies", gosh darn it, and pay dearly for them...and if our connection to the Internet is hosed, then so are we...so sad, really, just SO sad! <img src=pix/icon_smile_disapprove.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 70690Post yesireebob
Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:36 pm

DT did the same thing on their last tour, and they are doing it again this time. It was a hot topic on their website, too. Mike Portnoy himself addressed the issue, said it was a management decision to fund new lights for the show. People have calmed down about it, because it is not as bad as it sounds. The platinum and gold packages are very limited, like 20 per venue, so it's not like there won't be plenty of good seats for those who don't want to pony up the cash. As for the bronze packages, I paid an extra $10 to get closer seats for the DT concert in Phoenix. Turns out that it was a general admission concert, so I was no better off. While they did let gold and platinum package people in 15 minutes early, Fanfire made no special concession for bronze packets, reasoning that the extra $10 is about the same as ticketmaster service fees. I was VERY unhappy with that, as were many other people. Never thought I would long for ticketbastard, but at least they can call a fee a fee! Also, on reserved seats, I read several posts at the DT site from people who wound up seated in front of a stack of speakers. So beware of Fanfire.

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Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:03 pm

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I have spent this much or more to see a <img src=pix/icon_yes_yes.gif border=0 align=middle> concert! For this amount of money myself and a friend have traveled by train to our destination with two tickets to the show!! New York was a blast!! I've spent less money and bought two front row seats from a ticket broker when the show was local!! Here are some more of my thoughts about this:
I wonder how much regular tickets will cost.
I'd rather leave it to fate as to whether I meet the members of the band! It is far more rewarding!
For the money, there are too many variables in these packages for me. Not knowing where I will be sitting until just weeks before the show. Will I be spotted wearing the special shirt?
I'd rather spend my money on travel, if need be. It's always fun going somewhere I've never been before and meeting some of the other fans there at the pre-show gatherings! I'm ready to go back to Las Vegas!!!
Why can't they post a FULL tour schedule from the start??? I hate waiting around to see if they are coming locally.
There, I feel better now!</font id='Papyrus'></font id=teal></font id=size3>

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Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:36 pm

Part of the fun of meeting a favorite band or artist is the fact that you got lucky about it, somehow snuck backstage or waited outside for a quick handshake and picture and greet.

I didn't have to pay to meet Rick Wakeman. I had already paid 30 dollars to see his show. Why would have I had to pay extra to say hi to him? He apparently didn't think it was necessary. He gave EVERYBODY a fair chunk of time, he could have talked to me all night but I got sorta nervous and cut out of the convo early. LOL

There's no fucking way that I can afford that kind of money for a ticket. Ray sold me a 90 dollar ticket that I have to pay off gradually (look for something soon dude I promise, I just started a 2nd job this week so things are gonna be less tight<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)

I have to bust my ass just to GO to the concert in general, let alone pay a rediculous price like that. If we already have to pay 5 bucks for a glass of lite beer why should tickets be that much? T shirts were like 40 bucks too! I got a bootleg one outside.

This actually isnt that bad so long as they dont set aside a million tickets for this shit. I'm sure it's not going to be a very popular option anyways.

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Post: # 70717Post hennie552001
Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:28 pm

I concidered paying to meet the band!!! The Yes fans gathering before and after the show in Oslo this Saturday would cost about 18 USDollars (NOK 150) to get into. You would get a performance before the show, which is an accoustic set by Norwegian tribute band 'Parallels'. Then after the show at midnight, there is a 'nachspiel' on which some of the Yes members will show up. It's just a small thing, only 40 tickets were sold. I don't need a tribute band before the show, and while I was thinking about paying NOK150 to go to the 'after-party' all the tickets were sold out. But I know the guy who runs the fan club and he told me he could sneek me in, but I still have to pay for the ticket.
Don't know if I care to...

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Post: # 70718Post Terry Shea
Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:29 pm

What's this?

You do not need to purchase the Platinum package to ensure great seats. You can get great seats through the presale... Starting with row one! You will also find that the service charge is less than the Ticketmaster charge and includes credit card charges.

Bronze General Ticket Presale – For $12 over the ticket price:
- Ticket in rows 1-30

They said the same thing for the last presale, but I didn't notice any difference in the service charges. If there was a difference it couldn't have been more than a buck. Does the $12 over the ticket price include the service charge or not? I'm betting not. They've never charged additional fees for a presale before. How do they rationalize this? At the '97 show in Grand Rapids the same system was in place but there was no extra charge! I didn't know where my seats were going to be until I picked them up at the Will Call window prior to the show-and I was very surprised to find that they were front row center seats-but this time I may well be paying $12 extra per ticket and get stuck with 30th row seats! All they're doing is gouging their own fans! How much of a mark-up is there on the premium packages? As much as I love this band, I hate this bands management! They seem to be in it for nothing but the money and most of their hair-brained schemes simply backfire in their face and unfortunately the band memebers themselves probably take the brunt of the hit.

I don't know how well attended the recently completed tour was, but at the show I saw in Grand Rapids the arena was only about 1/3 full. Apparently they aren't drawing in a lot of new fans and they're starting to piss off the fans that have been on board forever. I think we should all write letters to the webmaster at Yesworld and also to Notes From The Edge for the next issue and voice our displeasure. Maybe Ed can e-mail this entire thread. Is that possible Ed?

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Post: # 70737Post Greenglade
Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:49 am

Considering the $45 I spent at Anaheim Pond, where the sound was so poor in the frugal/poor people seats way up top I almost took a cig break after the opening tune "Going for the One"......It sounded like an ice hockey rink for several tunes until they ironed it out. Plus I spent gas money and time driving there.....
Plus, not gonna pay for a meeting. Maybe a guitar lesson, but no meeting

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<font color=green>One thing we've got to consider is that a corporation exists for the profit of its shareholders and itself-- and to increase its own power. It is basically immoral in human terms.
It is not an entity of charity, has no empathy for the individual (unless, by cost analysis, it figures it can benefit itself by doing "good" ); and ,actually, it is <i>required by law</i> to devote itself exclusively to profit for its members/investors-- and, especially in this case-- regardless of the consequences (i.e., fans' disillusion or hurt feelings).
<u>I don't think YES really really has a say in this!</u> They want to keep the good times rollin'. Nothing wrong with that, and we are usually happy for their artistic/performing efforts; but they <i>depend</i> on companies like Fanfire(actually, they are <i> manipulated</i> by them).


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Fri Jun 04, 2004 8:31 am

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>Greenglade wrote:</b>
... not gonna pay for a meeting. Maybe a guitar lesson, but no meeting
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Now, this is a good one!

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Post: # 70762Post jackgowen
Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:33 pm

I'll pay $375 to see the Beatles reunite...........all of them. For what Yes is doing to their fans wallets the should play for about 8 hours.

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Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:49 pm

so,
if we cross paths with a band member in public,
like I have on a few occasions,
will we be totally snubbed, or sent a bill ?
when I saw KISS was doing this I was worried that it might spread.

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Post: # 70766Post Krish Tewari, M.D.
Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:07 pm

I absolutely would not do it, and I probably can afford it seeing as how I had to secure tickets to the Madonna concert that my wife wanted to go to (I did my duty and "tried" to have a good time). However, I've bought their LPs, their CDs, their remasters, their boxed sets, their expanded remasters, their DVDs, BUT this is absolutely disgusting. The way it's set up is so demeaning also - pay $375, can't bring your own camera, pose for a picture that you'll get a URL link to download, sign one item - herd us in like cattle, etc. As much as we'd love to blame other people for this (like management, etc.), I hold the band responsible as well b/c I know times are tough and the economy is bad, but for the band to agree to this, they might as well just sell out and invite Madonna to sing on their next CD. I'm very disappointed but still love their music.

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Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:28 pm

<font color=red>Hmm, I really wanted to play devil's advocate for this, but reading through the disclaimer stuff, I can't!<img src=pix/salook.gif border=0 align=middle>

This won't help the boys, nor make any more money. I probably could afford it, as opposed to many, but screw it. Hell, I have had good seats, been stage front without any extra bucks--I could have Steve Howe be dismissive of me for nothing!<img src=pix/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hmm, if I was management, I'd try to sell balcony seats for cheap, to bring in new fans. Five percent of nothing is . . . </font id=red>

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>Terry Shea wrote:</b>
And they still only have 5 dates listed!

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At those prices, they really don't need too many dates. Highway robbery!

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<b>Terry Shea wrote:</b>
I think we should all write letters to the webmaster at Yesworld and also to Notes From The Edge for the next issue and voice our displeasure. Maybe Ed can e-mail this entire thread. Is that possible Ed?


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Yeah, I could send it to them, but I don't think there's any need.

I'm sure that any threads like this around the net are being monitored closely by the band, management, and the promoters. They're probably chuckling to themselves about how we're complaining but we'll end up spending the money anyway.

Not me. I've decided to pass on the NJ show. PNC already has a program where season ticket holders get the best seats, so 1st orchestra won't even be available for the <b>YesScam</b> Seating. By the time the Gold/Platinum/Lead seats are taken out of the pool of available seats, there won't be anything left for the regular fans except the festival seating on the grass 200 yards from the stage.

And while this garbage continues, I won't sign the R&R Hall of Fame petition.

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Post: # 70776Post Dr_Yes
Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:40 pm

It seems like the next step in the wrong direction doesn't it?

I remember at the time I stumped up for four tix to this year's NEC show (last June!) I was promised all the benefits of pre-booking blah blah blah and what I got wasn't even in the centre A block - although it's in row 6 of the side block. When I complained to Keith Naisbitt at the management, his sole concern was that some venues HAD sold better tix directly to Yes fans and not done it thro the proper channels. In fact he told me he was making a point to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Thanks a fucking bunch for nothing.

The problem is that even for those who are STUPID enough to pay these amounts I bet they will be disappointed at the end by the actual seats and the supposed perks. Plus, as someone who now has about 3/4 copies of everything Yes has released on vinyl,CD, and re-mastered, I agree with some other people that maybe if anything we're entitled to a discount this time round.<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I don't know what it's like in the US with what you call football (i.e. the game where it's only the imported foreigner - the kicker - who actually gets to use a foot at all <img src=pix/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>) but with football in the UK it's been taken over by the suits and is no longer a game for the people. And music seems to be following. Shame.

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Post: # 70778Post OB1kenOB
Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:54 pm

A) pay YES 300% ticket increase and see the show up close and hope the perks are sufficient distraction from the humiliation of knowing they think your "biggest fantasy" is letting them slap your face.

B) Buy the left over "less than fantasy" tickets for 200% mark up from scalpers

C) Wait for the "everything must go" blow-out sale around 7:30 pm the night of the show.

4) Pay the big bucks, hope your 3rd row seat isn't right in front of the speakers, present your reciept for the "biggest fantasy" package as your one item to be autographed, just before they snap the picture with the band, instead of "cheese" say "shame on us all" and hang your head.




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Post: # 70791Post Greenglade
Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:56 am

Yeah, I could send it to them, but I don't think there's any need.
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I'm sure that any threads like this around the net are being monitored closely by the band, management, and the promoters. They're probably chuckling to themselves about how we're complaining but we'll end up spending the money anyway.

old/Platinum/Lead seats are taken out of the pool of available seats, there won't be anything left for the regular fans except the festival seating on the grass 200 yards from the stage.

And while this garbage continues, I won't sign the R&R Hall of Fame petition.

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<font color=purple><b> I don't think the band is laughing at us. My naive view is that they really don't lust for more money. They're already millionaires. They want to continue the party, but they must agree to be manipulated by management to keep going. But they're not going to survive much longer if they pull these stunts and keep putting out greatest hits stuff everyone already has. Management just doing what it has to do. Maybe in the future, there will be "free" yes concerts, and YES will volunteer for "Golden Oldies" tours with multiple bands at senior rock festivals</font id=purple></b>

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Post: # 70812Post Roan's Lady
Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:14 am

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<b>Greenglade wrote:</b>


Maybe in the future, there will be "free" yes concerts, and YES will volunteer for "Golden Oldies" tours with multiple bands at senior rock festivals
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Post: # 70819Post Terry Shea
Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:59 am

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<b>Terry Shea wrote:</b>
I think we should all write letters to the webmaster at Yesworld and also to Notes From The Edge for the next issue and voice our displeasure. Maybe Ed can e-mail this entire thread. Is that possible Ed?


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Yeah, I could send it to them, but I don't think there's any need.

I'm sure that any threads like this around the net are being monitored closely by the band, management, and the promoters. They're probably chuckling to themselves about how we're complaining but we'll end up spending the money anyway.

Not me. I've decided to pass on the NJ show. PNC already has a program where season ticket holders get the best seats, so 1st orchestra won't even be available for the <b>YesScam</b> Seating. By the time the Gold/Platinum/Lead seats are taken out of the pool of available seats, there won't be anything left for the regular fans except the festival seating on the grass 200 yards from the stage.

And while this garbage continues, I won't sign the R&R Hall of Fame petition.
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Post: # 70885Post fragilesi
Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:53 am

I'd pay it, while I can still afford it I'd pay it. I'm currently (though for how much longer I'm not sure) in the position where I can afford it and I don't agree with one of Ed's apparent assertions that just because I can and would I'm not a *real* fan.

I have tried hard to get decent seats and failed in the past though at times I've been lucky. If I can spend this much, get to see the band and simply say "Thanks" for what they've given me over the past twenty odd years, to me it would be well worth it. Sorry guys, this band and its members are pretty much iconic to me so to be able to personally say I appreciate them would be very special.

I've said it before, a Yes show is worth a hundred times more to me in terms of enjoyment compared to virtually every other band. I feel I've ripped them off when I've paid a measly thirty odd quid for a near three hour show of this most amazing music.

I'm tired of people griping on and on about what the band are doing, there is no pleasing some of you and if I was them I'd be sorely tempted to stop trying!

The only thing that will stop me doing this if it happened in the UK would be the fact that I'd likely be going with friends coming from a different viewpoint and I'd want to enjoy the show with them.

Simon.

PS I work a 50-60 hour week to get the money that I do, I don't have a huge salary by any means but it's decent enough. My leisure time is therefore precious and I don't mind spending to get the best for it. Despite the hours I don't live to work.

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Post: # 70886Post Ed Schaum
Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:17 am

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<b>fragilesi wrote:</b>
I don't agree with one of Ed's apparent assertions that just because I can and would I'm not a *real* fan.
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That's not what I meant at all. I would think that most of us can't drop $1,000 for a night out. There will be some fans who can afford it and who will spend the money, but I think most of those tickets will end up going to brokers and corporations.

The less affluent fans will be pushed back. Instead of just the usual allotment of tickets for the band, their friends, the promoter, and the radio stations, now there'll be another pool of seats out of reach.

Regular seating will start further back in the venue since more seats are being put aside for special interests.

In any case, does having more money make a fan a better candidate for this kind of perk?

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