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Post: # 233Post Ed Schaum
Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:51 am

And to think, I almost sat this one out! Glad I didn't.

I was lucky enough to see the last 2 shows of the current North American leg of the tour, and it was quite a finale.

The 2 shows were quite different, I'm really glad I got to see both of them. Friday's show was an outdoor concert at the Jones Beach Theater, which is located right on the Ocean. The last show (Saturday) was at Radio City Music Hall, a place where very few rock concerts have been held, and a place that YES has NEVER played before. Not only that, but Radio City was completely renovated a couple of years ago, and is now one of the most acoustically perfect halls anywhere.

The loose plan was to try to meet some of the other YEStalk nutcases... errr... I mean members before each show for a quick hello. I'm not real good at planning these things, but I did get the chance to meet some of our esteemed members, and that made the shows even better.

We were worried that we might not make it to Friday's show on time, but everything fell into place, and we arrived just as they were opening the gates. Wow, they didn't rip our tickets in half, the ushers had finger-mounted laser scanners which recorded the ticket info digitally! And look at this, I just got an email from SFX saying thanks for attending the show!

As we got inside, there was a band playing at the far end of the concourse, but we were more concerned about getting merchandise. I got the absolute coolest YESshirt that I've EVER seen - it's got the Magnification map on the front, and the IDR and the purple head on the back. There's no tour info to distract from the ultra-cool pix. Also picked up several EP's. I noticed they were also selling the Steve Howe Interactive CD, and buyers were treated to backstage passes. Nice bonus to anyone who bought that.

We lingered by Gate B for a while, but didn't really have any way of knowing who was who, so after a while we just went to our seats. First glimpse of the stage...lots of blue lighting, a large clear glass (probably lucite or lexan) YES logo hanging overhead, and seats for the whole orchestra behind the band.

Off to the side of each stage are some mirror-type items hanging. They're large, rectangular reflective surfaces, folded upen with accordian folds. Hanging off these are several round mirrors. The whole thing looks vaguely like the IDR, with the added bonus that I could see down onto the stage with the mirrors.

Soon after we sat down, we got our first surprise....Steve (Yessong) and his friend Dan drop over and say hello. Finally, Face to Face with another yes-talker (ya like how I worked TWO song titles into that sentence). They had just been backstage chatting with YES, and came over to say hi before taking their seats (Don't ask me why they'd leave backstage just to say hi).

Soon, there's a welcome announcement from the local rock station, and then the orchestra takes their seats. The mood music begins, and before we know it, the lights are dimming, the orchestra gets a little more intense, and then.....the birds. Everyone instantly knows that means only one thing...CLOSE TO THE EDGE.

Saturday's start was a little less hectic. I got into the city at 5, which was a few minutes late. I was supposed to meet Steve Sullivan and the YEStalkers at Heartland Brewery at 5 - Steve had a ticket for me, so meeting him was VERY important! When I arrived about 5 minutes late, he wasn't there. And I didn't see anyone from YEStalk either.

"Uh oh", I thought, they all met early and headed out for some food, or worse yet, they had arrangements to meet the band and decided to leave me behind.

5:15, no sign of anyone.

5:25, this is getting serious.

5:30 - ahhhh, there's Steve, I'm saved.

We head into Heartland for a couple of brewsters and some food. Ugh, they have nothing but their own specialty microbrews, none of which are that good. However, they weren't defective, and pretty soon we're laughing and enjoying ourselves.

Steve notices a whole table of people nearby, and says that he's sure it's the amy folks. Soon, as if on cue, Rhea Frankel pops over to say hello. Wow, there's nothing like meeting fem Yes fans (sigh). Once the word gets out that the famous Sullivan is nearby, the line forms, and his fans just can't get enough.

Just about the time he gets finished signing autographs, a couple of people drop over, and who is it this time but two of our very own members, Ray and Ray, Relayer4u and Gatesofdeliriumcrasher. This is very cool! We all hang for about another hour until the alcohol has completely worked its way into our systems.

Soon, Steve turns around and says, "Hey, there's Chris". It's Chris Clark, the keyboard player for Wonderous Stories (when he's not playing on Broadway). Chris, Steve, and I used to play Yes tunes together sometime last century, but I prefer not to think of how long ago that actually was. Let's just say that I think Drama was NEW at the time.

By now, it's nearly 7pm, and Steve and I need to head out for some final preparation to what we expect will be a stodgy theater. Within minutes, we head on over to the box office.

Lately, there really haven't been any long lines for Yes shows, people mill about, and when the doors open, everyone slowly makes their way inside. But for Radio City, there was a HUGE line stretching almost the whole length of the block. Just as we got to the end, it began moving, and within a couple of minutes, we were in the lobby. Very classy, everything is carpeted, art deco theme for everything, and lots of open space. Lot's of upholstered comfy chairs to relax, several refreshment stands, and of course, the Yes merchandise counter....which was mobbed!

I made my way over, picked up an additional 3 EP's (for a total of 7), and also noticed these pretty cool YES keychains, so I grabbed one of those too.

We take our seats, and the stage is similar to Friday, except there are no video screens here. Soon some preliminary music starts up -the acoustics are excellent, so I know it's going to be very special.

At about 8:20, the lights dim, the orchestra goes into their opening, the clear YES logo up above lights up green, and this is it...Yes under glass.

The sound is absolutely stellar. Every note is crisp, there are no unwanted echos, the volume and the mix are both perfect, we're on the way. Soon, I start noticing some extra music in the tunes that wasn't there originally....I hear a flute flying low overhead, then I get the impression that Sullivan is playing the cello next to me...nope, must be the orchestra. Hey, more strings that weren't part of the original music...this is VERY COOL.

Now the glass columns light up on the stage, clear green towers reaching skyward, then they're gone again. No they're not, they're just clear and you can't always see them. And watch out for that flying harp! Oh, sorry, it's just the orchestra again.

One of the first things I notice - Jon's voice....WOW. I'm secretly VERY relieved. On every show I've seen since they got back together, it seemed like Jon's voice was a little hoarse, he skipped some of the hight notes, and the clarity just wasn't there until halfway into a show.

But these 2 nights made those thoughts disappear entirely. Jon was in top form, his voice clear as a bell, and elastic enough to hit EVERY note without the slightest strain.

It wasn't long before the most amazing revelation of my YES listening experience came over me - Gates of Delirium. After 30 years, this tune has finally opened up for me. I've always liked the album, but have always had problems with it - it never sounded clear, like there was just too much music for the stereo to handle. There was always some distortion, Moraz' keys always sounded a little cheesy, and things never quite resonated the way they were supposed to, so that always dampened my Relayer experience.

But hearing Orchestral Gates was like listening on a 1000 foot wide stereo with 100 speakers. The music was bigger than ever before, super clear, and finally sounded the way Gates was supposed to sound. THEY NEED TO RE-RECORD THIS ALBUM WITH AN ORCHESTRA. The only problem was that I had to keep ducking as these flying sounds kept whizzing by my ears - watch out, here comes another flute...zoom.


BTW, nice job on the keys, Tom, or should I call you "jack in the box". This guy hops up and down more than anyone I've ever seen! His playing was excellent, he covered all of the material without difficulty, and had MUCH better presets for Gates than Moraz had for the original. You can't watch him for more than 5 minutes without getting out of breath though.

All night long, song after song continued to pin us against the back of our seats. It was all we could do to stand up and applaud because of the powerful music. But we did, again and again. The crowd was so intense on Saturday that there were ovations as each new part of each song appeared. At the end of AYAI, there was so much applause they had to stop the show for about 5 minutes. Even the band was stunned at the intensity of the applause.

It continued like this through every song. There was even a standing ovation at the end of In The Presence Of - and YES fans NEVER get excited when they hear a new song for the first time. And the part that no one mentions is that some of the orchestral interludes between songs ARE FROM THE NEW ALBUM!

The set list was the same both nights, although Steve did a different solo each night. On Friday, he did the acoustic part of The Ancient. On Saturday, we were treated to 2 tunes, I don't know what the first one was...very pretty...and then... yes, that's right - CLAP. And clap we did. I think we may even have gotten a little smile out of Stoic Steve. He played the whole thing with a nice solid straight beat so everyone could join in through the whole tune.

During Steve's part, the white backdrop fell away, and for the rest of the show, we were treated to a pulsating background of stars, a reminder of what's to come on Magnification.

Things went like this all night, song after amazing song, with no breaks at all. Even with the high energy throughout, no one could be prepared for Ritual. You think maybe you've heard a drum solo before? Think again!

Ritual goes on with the usual intensity, but then we hit the solo section. Chris does his "ham it up" bit first. On Friday it was kind of weird. The mix was good, but there was no low end to Chris' sound. His bass sounded like a toy. He'd hit those tremendous low notes and it sounded kinda hollow. Not sure what happened, I know it's harder to get that full sound outdoors, but this took away from things just a bit. They didn't have this problem at Jones Beach last year, can't understand why the sound was a little thin this time.

On Saturday, with the perfect Radio City acoustics, his bass just ripped through everything the way it's supposed to.

So when Chris finishes his stuff, we get the drum thing. First, the usual synth sounds as Alan gets started. Then the strobe lights start going, the intensity rises, and Alan becomes possessed. Soon, there are columns of smoke rising in a perfect line on each side of the stage. They change from purple to green, red, yellow, white, and back again. The stobes are reflecting off the convex mirrors and the IDR, the drums keep turning purple, and the stars are flashing at random.

Any chance they had of making money this tour was suddenly out the window. I can only imagine how much money they're going to have to pay to replace all of the armrests and seats. I'm sure that every armrest got deformed from people gripping them trying not to become airborne during that solo. And if you actually messed your seat during this solo, you might as well own up to it, 'cause everyone else did too.

Even the seemingly unflappable orchestra seemed riveted, although I'm not sure how they managed to sit there amid the strobes. The climax to the solo was so intense, I wasn't sure I was going to be able to take it, but then the band came back in and executed those super tight stops with machinelike precision, just to underscore how easy this is for them. Breathtaking!

There were a few humorous moments, and a few distractions, but this is a historic show that shouldn't be missed. You still have a chance, the European leg starts Oct 25th, and the ...errr. third leg, back to the states comes around again next year.

At one point during the show, I had my eye on the group of violin players. Suddenly, they were all scrambling for their music at the same time, frantically turning pages trying to figure out what they were supposed to be playing! That only happened on Friday, the same orchestra played both nights, and they were a little better acquainted with the changes by then....although on Saturday, Jon introduced them as the Long Beach Orchestra (instead of the Long Island Philharmonic) :)

There were definitely a couple of moments both nights where the timing was a little loose as the band and orchestra tried to synch back up with each other, but they managed to keep everything together without anyone getting lost.

Starship Trooper. It's seems to have become a tradition that the words are completely mixed up. Jon seems to just pull out a different order for the lines every time he does it.

Steve was very serious both nights, just about no smiles. On Saturday though, he really started moving around toward the end of Perpetual Change, much more than I've ever seen him! I think he was enjoying how amazing he sounded! On the other hand, there were a few spots where he came in early during a couple of tunes. I can only imagine how difficult it is to stay right on the beat with so much sound. In any case, I'd almost go so far as to say that he had Stage Presence, and there wasn't a sombrero in sight.

Funny moment - coming back into the end of AYAI, Steve's acoustic wasn't turned on, so there was no sound when he hit the strum. Jon looked over, motioned...waited...waited...waited.... bling, "And you and I". They pulled it off and everyone just smiled.

On a side note, Deb had a very humorous comment. Steve is wearing glasses this year. They're big, square things, and with his hair getting long on the sides again, Deb said he looks like BENJAMIN FRANKLIN. Yikes! Steve, glasses are ok, but you may need to get a different shape!



On the beat. This was another thing. Some of the rhythms were played very straight, without the slight flair that they usually use. For instance, during the verses of close to the edge, it was all very "on the beat" instead of the usual way they play around the beat. This made some things sound slightly more simplistic than when they play alone. Not sure if it's just not possible to notate those kind of subtleties, or if you just have to make allowances when you hand 3 hours of complex, unknown music to an orchestra to play.

Roundabout. HALF THE SONG?!?!?!?!?!?! Hey guys, why would you butcher this song? Especially when you're only doing one encore with one song. They cut out the ENTIRE middle section from "along a drifting cloud" to the slow chorus recap. They went straight from the chorus into the keyboard solo.

No Wonderous Stories either night. Bummer.

At Friday's concert, I've never seen so much movement during a show. The band didn't seem quite that enthused, and *I* felt that everything was a little laid back. Everyone else thought I was crazy, that the show was superb, but it seemed like it was dragging a bit. As we went home, I was afraid that maybe I was becoming jaded. But seeing Saturday's show put it all in perspective.

Plus, I sort of feel that they....ok, don't kill me...played...gulp....too many of the "heavy" tunes, and not enough "everybody stand up and clap" tunes. Gee Ed, these are all your favorite tunes, how could you say that? Well, we brought some friends on Friday who never really heard Yes, and who are mainly into light pop music. Yes hit them with ten thousand megatons of prog, and I think they might have been horrified. So this opinion is a little bit colored by that. I didn't feel that way on Saturday, so I guess it was just my concern that our friends might not be having a good time.

In fact, by the time I left Radio City, I had to be honest with myself, there was no doubt (got another one in), Saturday's show absolutely blew away Friday's show. And as if to confirm that, there was very little movement on Saturday. For the most part, the audience sat still.

As usual, I have the worst luck with seating. On Friday, I was so happy when a couple sat down in front of us. The lady was VERY short, she sat in front of me, and her guy-friend, who was about 7 feet tall, sat in front of Deb. Deb was on the aisle, so she just leaned over and could see fine. However, 5 minutes later they switched seats, so I got the 7 foot guy for the rest of the night.

On Saturday, I had a real tool in front of me. Not only did he have the need to talk to his friends 3 and 4 seats away throughout the whole concert, but he also whipped out his cell phone a couple of times. And he felt a need to improve his hairline by teasing the little tuft that was left up about 6 inches. Nice head, deek.

I'm used to the seating thing though. If you're smart, you'll NEVER go to a concert with me, I ALWAYS get seated behind a winner. On the other hand, the real clowns (the kind who like to stand up and play Air Drums during Soon, blocking everyone's view behind them) were in a different part of the theater, so at least I didn't have to look at anyone's posterior all night.

The fact is, you absolutely cannot afford to miss this tour. This is history being made, and they sound better than they have since the Going For the One tour. Musical perfection, right before your eyes.

This is no illusion, this is YES...Magnified.

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Post: # 6604Post N2yes
Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:53 am

<font color=red><font face='Tempus Sans ITC'>Ladies and gentlemen, from this point forth, above me lies the standard in which all future reviews are to follow!! Stunning effort ED! Thanks! Oh well, God willing, there will be a second leg. Now it's Europe's turn!</font id='Tempus Sans ITC'></font id=red><img src=pix/icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 6605Post Yesmam
Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:03 pm

Thanks Ed, Yes did not come near my area this year, and your experience has made me feel like I was there. Hopefully when they come back here from Europe I'll get my Yes "fix".

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Post: # 6606Post yeskat
Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:36 pm

Thanks, Ed!
I really appreciate the details -- I ALMOST feel like I was there! The drum solo -- WOW! It's too bad that the music critics probably didn't even come near there -- they were all watching Michael Jackson's "historic performance" at the time. That's all I've heard about ALL day! On the Today Show they were talking about how his performance wasn't as energetic as it once was. Oh, well, their loss!
I don't care if Yes doesn't come near here on the next leg out; I will TRAVEL to go see them. I don't care how much I'll have to pay! I KNEW I was going to regret missing this one, but I listened to my husband and decided to wait it out! He's regretting it, too -- I'm making sure of that! <img src=pix/salook.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 6609Post Altair
Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:00 pm

OK, an hour later, I'm wondering, ED, so, can you give us a few more details? I mean, you didn't even mention Perpetual Change. It was one of my faves. Which was your fave? Also, did they let the crowd crash the stage at the encore? Who soloed on Starship? Was it Tom or Chris? And, how did the backstage go? Did you get to meet any of the guys. Come on, Ed. If you are going to give us a review, you have to get to the important details. <img src=pix/icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 6616Post Lizzie
Tue Sep 11, 2001 6:29 pm

Ed: nice review..I got to re-live the concert. Thank you!

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Post: # 6621Post Chris2210
Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:48 pm

Nice one Ed, almost made me feel like I was there.

Fuck you Ed, how am I supposed to wait another two months to assuage my envy?

Now which should I post? Maybe I'll just listen to Magnification for a fourth time instead, he he he...

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Post: # 6626Post relayer4u
Wed Sep 12, 2001 9:37 pm

As my flight took off from La Guardia, we gently banked to the left to head West. I was treated to an awesome view of Manhattan from the air. It was another great moment, from a wonderful trip.

That particular memory was severely damaged Tuesday Morning.

My heart is glad that the two fellow Yes fans that I met, Ed and Ray, came through the terror without major incidents.

Ed, your review of the Radio City show is perfect. I have never heard a concert with such clarity of sound as there was Saturday night. The stage is super wide at Radio City and there were not stacks of speakers out at the edges of the stage. Even people with seats off to the sides had a good view of the show.

I was able to move down to the 3rd row (actually 5th row, because of the pit)for Ritual, what a treat that was!

I especially enjoyed meeting Ray (gatesofdeliriumcrasher) and Ed Schaum, before the show. Thank you for making my first trip to NY so enjoyable!

I feel so much sorrow for the people that have been affected by this tragedy. I know that President Bush has been portrayed by the Democratic media as a bumbling idiot, lets see if he can show us his true colors now.


Keep the Faith!

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<b>Chris2210 wrote:</b>
Nice one Ed, almost made me feel like I was there.

Fuck you Ed, how am I supposed to wait another two months to assuage my envy?

Now which should I post? Maybe I'll just listen to Magnification for a fourth time instead, he he he...
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You shouldn't rub it in chris <img src=pix/silly.gif border=0 align=middle>

Actually, whilst having heard the album about ten times now and therefore wanting them to play much more from it at the UK gigs I fear that they may drop GATES. For me that would be the highlight track.

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Post: # 6643Post magnificator
Fri Sep 14, 2001 6:56 am

Great review Ed. You took me back into all of my top five Yesshows! Sorry about your seating jinx, makes for a good laugh though. Brings back a couple of stories, if you'll allow me, I'll keep 'em short. Once in Reno (Fizz..can't remember offhand what tour) we were sitting behind Jon Anderson's new bride, Jane. After finding this out and respectfully saying "hello", "congrats" and our praises of the band...(aside: They must have just gotten married because you could see a sort of surprise on her face at receiving so much high praise)...we left her and her party of about 7-9 people alone. Don't know who they were but they obviously were not huge fans and prob had comp tix. Well two of them conversed incessantly, sometimes dragging in a reluctant third. Constantly talking about their mutual funds or whatever. After about 3-4 songs worth of this (hints did not work) we risked offending Jane and asked them politely to refrain from the above. They appologized sincerely and enjoyed an outstanding show! Last year on the masterworks tour, I took my fiance to three shows. Until then she was a Yesshowvirgin. She thought Steve Howe looked like Mr. Burns on The Simpsons! (Sorry Steve!) Naturally I immediately hushed her in the event that one of my fellow Yesfans should hear, but have to admit under those indigo lights...?
Ben Franklin! Was your first reaction like mine?...sssshhhhhh!!! From the west coast: Our hearts and spirits are with you. And may God be with us all. If you need ANYTHING, please, just ask.

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Fri Sep 14, 2001 5:39 pm

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<b>massos wrote:</b>
[Actually, whilst having heard the album about ten times now and therefore wanting them to play much more from it at the UK gigs I fear that they may drop GATES. For me that would be the highlight track.

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Aaaaaaaargh! Don't even say that.

We seem to be agreeing on almost everything at the moment don't we? ("White's a dark colour - yes it can be quite gloomy, I think"<img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). I wouldn't mind lots more Magnification on the tour, but I couldn't take it if they dropped Gates, that and AYAI have to remain sacrosanct, but I could forgo almost anything else to squeeze in a few more of the new tracks. With a constant, well rehearsed orchestra they might just do it.

How do we lobby them to keep Gates though?

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<b>Chris2210 wrote:</b>
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<b>massos wrote:</b>
[Actually, whilst having heard the album about ten times now and therefore wanting them to play much more from it at the UK gigs I fear that they may drop GATES. For me that would be the highlight track.

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Aaaaaaaargh! Don't even say that.

We seem to be agreeing on almost everything at the moment don't we? ("White's a dark colour - yes it can be quite gloomy, I think"<img src=pix/icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). I wouldn't mind lots more Magnification on the tour, but I couldn't take it if they dropped Gates, that and AYAI have to remain sacrosanct, but I could forgo almost anything else to squeeze in a few more of the new tracks. With a constant, well rehearsed orchestra they might just do it.

How do we lobby them to keep Gates though?
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Well Chris, it seems we're of the same mindset. I understand that, according to Steve in the recent webchat, that the only Yes site he checks out is Yesworld,(he don't know what he's missing!). Perhaps posting in the concert reviews bit, or even e-mailing the fine folks at Yesworld will get back to the guys.
I NEED GATES LIVE !!!

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Post: # 6769Post manrico4
Fri Sep 28, 2001 11:28 am

I noticed this thread and thought I would add a review I wrote for YesNet of the Radio City concert. Although I had mixed feelings it was certainly a great experience.

This is the first time I had seen YES since the Union tour although
I saw them frequently in the seventies beginning with the Relayer
tour. I was initially overwhelmed by the balance and clarity of the
sound as I had read many reviews of previous shows having trouble
hearing certain members.

The sound was wonderful, the stage was great and I even really liked
the orchestra. I thought Close to the Edge was phenomenal.
Everyone playing great, inspired, clear, beautiful etc. Although I
didn't like the intro to Long Distance Runaround, the actual song
was incredible.

I personally found Don't Go to be much more enjoyable than In the
Presence Of which I found to meander and sound like something on an
adult rock station. Maybe my opinion will change after I hear the
album.

The Gates of Delerium had me crying, it along with CTTE I found so
fresh and inspired by the addition of the orchestra. Unfortunately,
I believe the "Soon" section of Gates was completely mishandled.
The excessive harp runs gave it a slightly "Hollywood soundtrack"
feel and I even thought the tempo was a bit fast. I didn't find it
moving at all. Considering the incredible energy and intensity of
the battle section I just didn't feel it provided the necessary
release and simplicity that it had in the past.

Starship Trooper and Perpetual Change were incredible, especially
Steve Howe.

It was after that I found the concert starting to deteriorate. It
began with And You and I which I didn't think was at all served well
by the orchestra. In addition I believe the piece has gone through
profound changes since the original recording. What is a pastoral
piece of infinite subltety and beauty has turned into a very heavy
handed, overly accented, heavy-metal onslaught of one climax after
another. Alan White, who I felt had played truly maginificently in
Close to the Edge has really misunderstood the essential
character of this piece, and along with Chris Squire have really
stripped it of its beauty. I think YES should go back to the
original recording and take a fresh look at it again.

The other piece that I found disappointing was Ritual. It
had many great moments, but it again, starting with Chris Squire's
solo and continuing through the percussion section was really
lacking in the mystery and primitiveness of this piece that was
there back in the 70's, most notably in the Q.R.P. video. I was so
looking forward to the percussion section from all the reviews I had
read here and from last year's Masterworks reviews. Unfortunately
it was flamboyantly executed (especially by Squire) and was a
caricature of the actual music that it had been before. It seemed
to be just a lot of men banging on drums.

Essentially this review seeks only to reveal what I believe is still
a great chasm in the styles of the members of YES. Squire and White
although starting magnificently ended playing in a very YesWest
style that bordered on heavy-metal. I must say Steve Howe never
succumbed to that and played with incredible dignity and musicality
all night. Jon Anderson sounded beautiful and Tom Brislin was quite
incredible in his own right.

Although it was a hugely entertaining evening and I enjoyed myself
tremendously, I was unfortunately disappointed in the way the music
digressed by the end.

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Post: # 6782Post magnificator
Sat Sep 29, 2001 4:56 am

OUCH!!! Tough review, dude! I do respect your opinion. The world would be a much smaller place if we were all "yesmen" (intended) and we just simply said..."THEY WERE GREAT, MAN!" I agree that some of the orchestrations weren't "appropriate". One section in particular bothered me. I can't remember which song but it was a slow section where pizzicato strings were added (AYAI?) and it just seemed out of place to me. Over all, I think Larry Groupe did an excellent job with the orchestral arrangements. Arranging music is simply one man's interpretation of the existing material and isn't always done the way I want to hear it done. And I guess I'm too lazy to do it myself! I have to respectfully disagree with your opinion of "And You And I". Admitedly, it's one of my favorite "old Yes" tunes, but it lends itself so well to orchestral instrumentation how could one not love it? As for Alan & Chris, they comprise the rhythm section and label them (progressive, etc) as you like, Yes IS a rock band. I personally like the tours where they incorporate Yes-west styles with the Masterworks material. It is a part of them and their LEGACY. Build on it & ROCK ON <img src=pix/icon_smile_sleepy.gif border=0 align=middle> !!!

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Post: # 6849Post LonMelJr
Wed Oct 03, 2001 5:48 am

Sorry guys, just wanted to inform Ed of where I remember him from...

It came to me when your name appeared on winamp when browsing through my playlist... you're the guy who can play Howe's guitaring well, no? If so, I really like your stuff!

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Wed Oct 03, 2001 10:54 am

Hey Lon, take a break from Yesheads and show up here more!<img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

As I speak, the only thing out there is Ed's Millenium Guitar, with several accoustic Howe compositions. But his forthcoming album combines Tim Martins keyboards with some electric playing from Ed. Ed sent me a link to a demo, but he's kinda shy about presenting stuff until it's finished. Plus, he's in NYC too, which has presented problems lately. But when it comes out, it should be tasty stuff . . .

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Post: # 6947Post LonMelJr
Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:37 am

Thanks for the headsup, proffer... I also apologize that I haven't been here often, but I find this place so big and established already that I don't have to time to go through ever nook and cranny yet... I will, one day, figure out an effective way to use this.

PS: I live in New York as well, just as a sidenote. <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 6948Post LonMelJr
Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:37 am

Thanks for the headsup, proffer... I also apologize that I haven't been here often, but I find this place so big and established already that I don't have to time to go through ever nook and cranny yet... I will, one day, figure out an effective way to use this.

PS: I live in New York as well, just as a sidenote. <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:03 am

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<b>LonMelJr wrote:</b>
Thanks for the headsup, proffer... I also apologize that I haven't been here often, but I find this place so big and established already that I don't have to time to go through ever nook and cranny yet... I will, one day, figure out an effective way to use this.

PS: I live in New York as well, just as a sidenote. <img src=pix/icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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If you visit only occasionally, just click the "Mark All Forums Read" button in any forum, and when you return, use the Quickscan feature to see only topics and posts that are new since you hit the button.

Hope this helps.

Ed

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Post: # 6954Post bataisflow
Wed Oct 10, 2001 4:18 am

Hey Ed,

I was at both those shows as well. I couldn't agree with you more. Although, I thought that the JB show was great as well but certainly not as prestine sounding as the RCMH show. I brought about 10 people with me to the show - some were old yesheads and some were very new. The old fans thought it was the best Yesshow they had ever seen (and most of them have seen almost as many times as I have - 21). The new fans loved the show - I mean we all walked out of there speechless - no one could say anything other than WOW! Truly a great experience! My only worry is that I may never get to see them that good again.

NYC loves Yes! I think I counted several 5 minute ovations and the one after trooper was more like 10 - 15 mins long (or it felt like that) Chris was so tired of standing during that ovation that he sat down and grabbed his Beer - or Scotch or whatever - Hillarious!

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Post: # 6966Post LonMelJr
Fri Oct 12, 2001 5:26 am

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If you visit only occasionally, just click the "Mark All Forums Read" button in any forum, and when you return, use the Quickscan feature to see only topics and posts that are new since you hit the button.

Hope this helps.

Ed



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Thanks! :)

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Post: # 6968Post theproffet
Fri Oct 12, 2001 6:18 am

<font color=purple>Lon, if it helps you to navigate, you might want to try my forum in Album Talk here. You could help steer some new Yes fans, and pick up some ideas on other bands yourself. I plan to start really talking about other bands in depth there, when all the hubbub over Magnification dies down. I don't think we've had a discussion on ELP for quite some time, ditto for some other prog legends. I do always try to keep a discussion going on obscure bands, just to pick up on what the Brits have access to . . . </font id=purple><img src=pix/icon_smokin.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Post: # 7010Post LonMelJr
Sat Oct 13, 2001 8:27 am

Fabulous idea... tell me when you plan on starting especially, and I'll be sure to check daily.

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