aitomies wrote:It's isn't exactly like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa, but I think the canonical works should have their integrity retained, and off-cuts for the completists should be on a seperate disc.
It's not a rant, and I agree.
But it isn't always a case of the song not being good enough to be released the first time. Make It Easy and It's Over may be the best 2 songs on the Rhino reissue of 90125 but were not included on the original. Why? This is just speculation, but I'm guessing Jon either didn't want to sing them or Trevor didn't want Jon replacing his vocals on these numbers. We also get the a cappella version of Leave It which was not included on the original release. Clearly songs and alternate versions of songs were sometimes left off from the original works due to factors other than them simply not being good enough, which was a shame IMO and I'm glad that Rhino decided to include these.aitomies wrote:Well I'm a bit reluctant to shell out the third time (vinyl, CD, re-master) for the Yes oevre, but when I do, it is for better sound quality, not for bonus tracks. When I listen to [insert album name of choice] it's all build-up to that deep silence at the end - best on vinyl with the rasp, rasp, rasp of the needle going futilely round and round - and I do not want the moment polluted by the start of an additional song that was'nt good enough to be released first time. It's isn't exactly like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa, but I think the canonical works should have their integrity retained, and off-cuts for the completists should be on a seperate disc.
thehallway wrote:As part of the newest generation of Yesfans, I have only actually had access to the most recent remasters. Some people say vinyl is better quality; after all a digital recording is only a sampled copy of the original so it's hard to see how the quality could improve. Still, the arguments differ...
As for the bonus tracks, they're not that great, but theres no harm in them being there. Most are poorly mixed with no overdubs, but it gives you a good taste of how the band sound "raw". The highlights for me would be America (obviously), Siberia, and Squire's Amazing Grace.
I also personally like the instrumental fragments attached to the GftO remaster.
Chris2210 wrote: I also personally like the instrumental fragments attached to the GftO remaster.
happytheman wrote:Some of the run through's on a few of the remasters I can live without but stuff like The Ancient I love.
Gary wrote:Recently replaced missing and imperfect CDs with new ones. Many of my old favorites now come with 5 or 6 added or bonus tracks. Many of these tracks are just different versions of the prviously released song or a rehearsal studio version.
How do you all feel about theses added tracks?
On the albums that I feel were perfect, such as CTTE, TYA, Relayer, Tales, Fragile, etc., I'm not a fan of them. On less important albums (IMO) I don't care. I like keeping the integrity of the classics.
You can still find In a Word brand new condition on Amazon for under $20.topographic_drama1980 wrote:In A Word is out of print?!
I'm still waiting for the remaster of Big Generator with bonus material. We know there are demos and remixes of some of the material off of album. I'd like to know when this is going to happen.
tardistraveler wrote:Seems there's 2 issues here.
One is the concept of remastering. I personally think it's worth the cash to purchase a beloved album, in remastered form. Rhino did an excellent job with the remasters, and it's sometimes like hearing the songs for the first time!
The other is the concept of bonus tracks. While I'm a "completist" at heart, and enjoy hearing every scrap of music Yes ever recorded, I would prefer that these not just be "tacked on" to the end of an album, but on a separate disc. I realize that economics make the "tacking on" more feasible, and since these albums were originally produced on vinyl, there's oodles of space left on a CD once you've recorded the original album.